[Ansteorra] on leaving the SCA--

[SoldierGrrrl]

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Tina Michael <tinabetta at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>  It is soooo easy to be misconstrued and misconstrue on web threads. We are
> all friends here even if we don't like everybody all the time. All this
> arguing over a term I will not mention that is used pretty much everywhere
> is a bit silly.


And I'm sure that folks that all the hoohah about trying to remove other
derogatory terms from common speech was silly...unless of course, you were
part of the affected group.  We do tend to not call each other nasty names
on this list, so why does calling someone a "FITB-Nazi" get a free pass?  I
am genuinely confused.


> Free speech is still around so if you do not agree with
> something someone has said, unless you are truely spoiling for a fight, put
> on your big girl pants and move on.


Um, no?  I'm trying to not just sit quietly when someone uses a phrase that
may truly be hurtful to another, since as someone else has so helpfully
pointed out, we don't know who's reading the list.  I wouldn't let someone
get away with using another derogatory phrase slung at friends, and I won't
"put on my big girl panties and move on."  Sorry.  We have too many fine
words in the English language to rely on 20th century evil to describe
folks who are playing the game differently than you or I might.  Just
because you have the right to say something doesn't mean you have the right
to be heard, or to have folks agree with you.  Also, free speech only means
that the government can't muzzle you, not that folks can't object to your
words.


> Everyone here knows in their heart that
> the N word was not directed at anyone and not meant to harm but to
> illustrate a point. Stop reading things into it that are not there and move
> along.


It might not have been MEANT to harm, but intent is not magical.  If I
accidentally run over your foot, it doesn't hurt less because I didn't MEAN
to.  That broken vase doesn't unbreak itself because I didn't mean to drop
it.

 I know of at least one person who HAS been hurt by being called an
"authenticity Nazi," so yeah, I'm going to say something. I try not to
attack anyone, although evidently unless you agree fawningly with everyone
else, you're launching attacks.  I've linked to this entry before,
yesterday actually, but here it is again.
http://attack-laurel.livejournal.com/65495.html

That conversation in moving us no where. Let's apologize and stop
> being so mean.


Is a false apology really what you want?


> When you have been in the SCA as long as Ismet you can
> pretty much say what you like because everyone knows you, loves you and
> knows you are not being mean. Love you, Ismet! You too Damon!
>

Um, no, again.  Being well-loved and well-known are not free passes to say
something and expect no disagreement.


> enjoyment of being in our proper time we could get people to
> play with us.


 I don't quite get this last sentence.  Oh, I understand the getting folks
to play with us, but proper time?

Helene Dalassene
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Americans the war remains an abstraction – a distant and unpleasant series
of news items that do not affect them personally."- Robert Gates, Secretary
of Defense.