ARCH - combat archery tourney was ' Champions History'

[Melanie Black]

I think the idea behind the "no missile weapons in a list" rule is to keep
someone from winning crown tournament armed with a handful of shurikens or
something   Just thing how easy it would be.. just walk up and throw a
handful at someone's face.. ONE is sure to hit. Takes the challenge out of
it.
And also in tournaments there is the danger of a spectator being bonked with
an errant throwing axe or something. AT the melee's I have went to that used
archery and such, they had screened pavilions near the list field or the
people had to stay WAY back. My Ex- about got ker-bonked by an arrow at
north sea raids while trying to take a picture of the battle from outside
the barriers.

Melanie
----- Original Message -----
From: <baron at elfsea.ansteorra.org>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History


> Well, when we say a thing is against kingdom law, we must
> very clear about what "it" is.  I don't know what was
> proposed for Spring Faire that the Earl Marshal forbade.
>
> But you can certainly have competitions that involve
> combat archers shooting at each other or at fighters,
> simply by defining it as "melee" rather than "tourney",
> thus getting around the prohibition against missile
> weapons in the lists.
>
> - Galen
>
> Quoting "Duke, Wes" <WDuke at healthaxis.com>:
>
> > I didn't say it hasn't been done, just that it is against Kingdom Law.
> >
> > Fearghus
> >
> > Wes Duke
> > Systems Analyst
> >
> > wduke at HealthAxis.com
> > 817-255-3240
> > Pager 817-418-2612
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:48 PM
> > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> >
> > Hummmmm.  Well, we sent  Mistress Stella an excellant news paper
> > picture of
> > her with a bow on the field at a War Chieftain / Caviler of the
> > Bridge a few
> > years back.
> >
> > Gilli
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
> > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
> > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:41 PM
> > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> >
> >
> > >Maybe, but we had such a tourney shot down by Kief for Springfaire.
> > It is
> > >also against Society Law.
> > >
> > >Fearghus
> > >
> > >Wes Duke
> > >Systems Analyst
> > >
> > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
> > >817-255-3240
> > >Pager 817-418-2612
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:36 PM
> > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> > >
> > > That's not exactly true.
> > >
> > > One case in point is Middleford's Warchieftan / Caviler of the
> > >Bridge.
> > > Combat archery is used there and has been for years.  Also I
> > believe
> > >some of
> > > the progressive melees have used combat archery also.  I think the
> > >intent
> > > was not to have combat archery involed in Crown Tournaments.
> > >
> > > Another thought is this.  When the rules were written, it wasn't
> > >invisioned
> > > that archers would be shooting at other archers with no other
> > >combatants on
> > > the field.  This is some new ground to be broken here.  I think we
> > >can do
> > > it.  And I think we can do it safely with spectators.
> > >
> > > I also think that the combat side of the house needs a little TLC
> > >too.
> > >
> > > Gilli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Duke, Wes <WDuke at healthaxis.com>
> > > To: 'ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org'
> > ><ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> > > Date: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:25 PM
> > > Subject: RE: ARCH - Champions History
> > >
> > >
> > > >It is also forbidden by Kingdom law to use missile weapons in a
> > >tournament
> > > >setting.
> > > >
> > > >Fearghus
> > > >
> > > >Wes Duke
> > > >Systems Analyst
> > > >
> > > >wduke at HealthAxis.com
> > > >817-255-3240
> > > >Pager 817-418-2612
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Bob Dewart [SMTP:gilli at seacove.net]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:20 PM
> > > > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > > > Subject: Re: ARCH - Champions History
> > > >
> > > > HE Rumil said something like this:
> > > > >A possible second step would be to talk to the Crown about
> > >another
> > > >archery
> > > > >championship for combat archery instead of target archery.
> > Call
> > >it
> > > >the
> > > > >Archer Guardian or some such.  His/her job will be to quickly
> > > >eliminate
> > > > >foreign archers on the battle field who seek to put arrows in
> > our
> > > >King.
> > > > >(How rude!)  Obviously that would be a combat archery
> > tournament.
> > > >I
> > > > >foresee a list with combat archers shooting and dodging arrows.
> > >I
> > > >would
> > > > >hate to be a spectator for such a tournament ( i.e. Why is
> > there
> > >an
> > > >arrow
> > > > >in my mug? ). :)
> > > >
> > > > You know, he's got a point here.  Why not?  We do have light
> > and
> > > >heavy
> > > > arrows, so to speak.  This  could be very do able.  We could do
> > an
> > > >Archer's
> > > > Duel.  Or we could actually suit up and go at each .
> > > >
> > > > I like it!!   Oh no, that means it's doomed.  :(
> > > >
> > > > Gilli
>
>
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