ARCH - Enough is enough
rampanthare at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 20 06:02:07 PDT 2001
I am afraid that I would have to agree with Nuala. At
Gulf War we lost 80% of the arrows we took. This is
already a expensive hobby. The new regulations just
add to the cost. With the additional restrictions we
will not be able to "fill the air with a glorious rain
of death" that was so impressive at Gulf.
--- Eadric Anstapa <eadric at scabrewer.com> wrote:
> A couple of notes in response to your message.
> 1. You are correct about the crossbow. With the
> currently approved designs
> virtually every crossbow in this kingdom will be in
> trouble. That's why
> every crossbow archer out there needs to be thinking
> of an alternative
> nock-end safety device that will work in current
> crossbows and the work with
> the marshallate to get it approved.
> 2. I agree that the SEMs decision was made too
> hastily and I know our
> Kingdom Archery Marshal and likely our Earl Marshal
> agree. We were NOT
> given the time to come up with alternatives that the
> SEM had indicated that
> we would have. We thought we would have till July
> to come up with
> alternatives and that the SEM would make a decision
> in August not have
> something in effect in by August.
> As far as broadcast is concerned, it has been
> discussed between the various
> kingdom Earl Marshals and their direct deputies.
> Lord Fearghus and Sir
> Wilhelm spoke with the archery marshallate at Red
> Tape and directed us to
> start taking action and to spread the word and rally
> the troops to start
> looking for alternatives. Unfortunately that has
> been barely a month and it
> is doubtful that all of the marshals have had the
> time to speak with their
> local archers.
> 3. Yep, a Lexan face shield on every fighter would
> do it and so would
> safety glasses/goggles. It aint gunna happen.
> 4. It isn't the death of combat archery. Other
> kingdoms have required some
> sort of bulbous nock for a while and God forbid
> there are those Goof Tube
> kingdoms out there. Combat Archery still lives.
> There are more creative
> and talented people in the SCA than nearly any other
> organization you will
> find. I am convinced that if we pull together we
> can work through this and
> come up even better alternatives in time. If
> anything it has the potential
> of bringing CA to kingdoms where it is currently not
> allowed and perhaps the
> Goof Tube kingdoms will now allow fiberglass shafted
> arrows with an APD.
> In the mean time, as Gilli has suggested write a
> letter to the BOD, SEM, and
> SAM and let them know what you think. Try to stay
> constructive. I wrote
> one, I got a reply.
> In Service,
> Lord Eadric Anstapa
> Coastal Regional Archery Marshal, Ansteorra
> eadric at scabrewer.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lizdenpeters at juno.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: ARCH - Enough is enough
> > Gilli,
> > I read all the postings on the list regarding the
> combat archery
> > question. There were a number of things I noticed
> about this.
> > 1) There was no broadcast from the SEM prior to
> making his decision.
> > Everything on the list was second or third hand.
> On an issue of such
> > importance, it is my feeling that the SEM should
> have made a kingdom wide
> > announcement delineating the issue(s) to be
> addressed including an
> > address for such concerns to be forwarded to.
> > 2) Combat arrows are difficult to control under
> current rules and will be
> > impossible to control under the rules effective
> August 1, 2001. Also,
> > they are the death knell for combat crossbows. It
> will be impossible to
> > use the new mandate for crossbows currently in
> use. To use the combat
> > bolts under the new rules will require a special
> crossbow designed and
> > used for combat purposes only. This will be cost
> prohibitive for most of
> > us.
> > 3) A much simpler solution would be adding
> screening or lexan to the
> > helms currently in use. A cost of less than $5.00
> would not only prevent
> > injuries from bounce back but from sticks, rocks
> and other dangers as
> > well.
> > 4) I hate to say it but it would appear that the
> archery community must
> > arbitrarily correct something without looking for
> any other, simpler
> > solutions, Apparently we must NOT ask the other
> participants on the
> > field to do anything considerate for the archery
> > It appears to me that this ruling is arbitrary and
> much to the delight of
> > the fighters will, in effect, kill the sport of
> combat archery. At least
> > we can still shoot static archery and have
> tournaments until they decide
> > that is too dangerous too. See you at the
> > In service to the dream,
> > Nuala of Arkham
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