ARCH - Royal Hunstman Tourney & Academy of the Bow ironwyrm at
Sat Apr 28 08:08:02 PDT 2001

Ld. Wilim,

If you are planning to use the same area that was the list field it
should work well as long as we can close off any stray paths and clear
spots thru the woods (because you know as well as I no matter how well
roped or marked off it is, someone is still going to insist on crossing
that range down field).

Sorry I missed the candle shoot, I didn't think judging the Bardic event
would take that long (foolish me).  Maybe next time!  If you see Lord
Karrick please thank him for allowing me to use his tent floor to rest
Saturday night.  I did not see him before I left the site.

See you at Burnnet Park, don't forget your combat archery gear!!!

In service,


On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:07:29 -0500 "Wilim Penbras"
<wilim.penbras at> writes:
> Will,
>      Thanks for your input.  When we tested the design at Karrick's 
> it worked quite well.  In 18 arrows (the same total we shot) Karrick 
> and I averaged about 4 touches with 2 splits each.  It really is 
> more of a mental block for most archers I think.  They try to Hit 
> the bullseye area and end up shooting a 2x4" target instead of just 
> worrying about windage.  If you only worry about windage then the 
> target are is 2x30".
> The Buck was covering the majority of the target butt.  it was about 
> 706 square inches with the kill zone being roughly 60 square inches. 
>  The plate was roughly 57 square inches and the wand was 60 square 
> inches.
> All of the targets we're worth different amounts but the size of 
> what you were trying to hit was almost identical in each case.
> The Camping areas are open to modification by anyone.  No MAJOR 
> cutting trees but anything 5" or less can go away.  The Site is an 
> AMTGuard owned site and they don't really need the same kind of 
> space we do.  You really don't think the main list area would work 
> for war practice?  It's about 200 - 250 yds in both directions.  The 
> trees around the road will be clear futher back in some of the tight 
> spots.  The camp sites will probably be left to campers to deal 
> with.  Water will be being run further into camp but probably not in 
> time for AOB.  There is electricity in the merchanting area and with 
> the tree cover people could probably set up gas powered generators 
> in the woods without being loud enough to disturb most.
> The port-a-lets will be better taken care of at future events 
> included moving the handicap portalet to list area.  (for Chairs and 
> Elizabethans. <G> )  There is a long list of improvments intended 
> for this site and the more we use it the faster money will be 
> available for them.  The short list is a Bath House and More 
> electricity available.  Also a Proper Archery range.  (They 
> consulted with us on how best to set one up as they currently don't 
> do target archery.)
> In Service,
>      Wilim
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: ironwyrm at
> Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at
> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:05:52 -0500
> >Lord Wilim,
> >
> >That does have a nice ring to it doesn't it.  I have but three
> >suggestions for that format should you wish to use it in the 
> future. 
> >1st, always keep the buck target in the huntsman tournament as it 
> does
> >lend nice feel to that match.  2nd, I would suggest thirty yards 
> might be
> >a more appropriate range for that format.  and third, raise the 
> points
> >value on the staff as it was the most difficult target to hit. 
> >
> >The site was very nice, however does need a bit more clearing out. 
> >Little stumps, vines, and rocks were a bit of a problem but the 
> more a
> >site is used people will tend to clear those out themselves.
> >
> >Lights and sanitizers in the port-a-lets would have been nice,
> >and a handicap port-a-let near the list field and range would have 
> been
> >convenient (I didn't see one).
> >
> >I did not see anywhere really suitable for large units, combat 
> archers,
> >or siege weapons without doing a lot of clearing of trees.
> >
> >Of course some areas with water and power for our good gentles who 
> have
> >medical problems would also be helpful.  I am concerned about this 
> when
> >having an event in mid-late summer
> >(A lot of our good friends just can't take the heat!).
> >
> >But over all it is a very nice site that shows great promise.  
> Thank you
> >for all your efforts in procuring the new location for our SCA 
> events.
> >
> >As for the AoB we had four new live marshals authorized in the 
> Steppes
> >and should you wish to do live steel at that event we will be at 
> your
> >service.
> >
> >In service of the Steppes and Ansteorra,
> >
> >Ironwyrm
> >
> >PS: To all have expressed concern about Guyjin San, he is OK and is 
> now
> >at home resting.  But he will have to undergo some lifestyle 
> changes to
> >remain in good health in the future.  We do pray this will not be 
> too
> >difficult a task for him!  Thank you for your concern and well 
> wishes. 
> >And thanks to the site Chirurgeons who did such a wonderful job 
> when they
> >were needed.
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:08:15 -0500 "Wilim Penbras"
> ><wilim.penbras at> writes:
> >> Greetings,
> >>      I only help run the range but I came up with the shoot 
> format.  
> >> Was it a good shoot?  We have our first Crossbow winner, but 
> since 
> >> the lead between shooters was less than the average point value 
> for 
> >> a single good shot I think it was close.  We had a 3 way tie for 
> >> second and the Huntsman was only 6 or 8 points ahead. 8 points 
> was 
> >> about the average value, given for hitting an 8" wreath at around 
> >> 20yds.
> >> 
> >>      What do we think of AoB at that site.  We will be removing 
> >> about 6 or 7 trees from around the roadway to open up navigation 
> and 
> >> help with larger, or trailered vehicles.  Parking will be marked 
> off 
> >> better and I will make sure everyone knows the site rules allow a 
> >> certain amount of clearing in campsites.
> >> 
> >>      I will have a place for the heavy fighters I have asked to 
> >> attend for war practice to play while waiting for the melee area 
> to 
> >> openup to war units/combat archer/siege training.
> >> 
> >>      Let me know what you think and would people that have 
> expressed 
> >> an interest in teaching contact me with a course description and 
> if 
> >> possible a brief outline.  Also I will need to know which 
> >> instructors wish to compete in the next Royal Hunstman so we may 
> >> plan classes around the Tourney.
> >> 
> >>      If people have topics they would like to see or would like 
> to 
> >> see, including live steel and/or siege.  Please let me know.
> >> 
> >> In Service,
> >>      Wilim
> >>
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