[Ansteorra-archery] Combat Archery training drills

Wilim Penbras wilim.penbras at pandora.org
Mon May 14 11:42:31 PDT 2001 

You know I like the way that tournament idea is going.  I would also suggest that the archery have 5 fighters available on his side who could only be activated if the archer got within 10 feet of them.  These fighters would act as protection for archer.  The archer would/could be judged on total kills minus total fighters they 'activated' to help them.  This would represent pulling a fighter from other areas he could be working if the archer's tactics/aim were better.

If I go up and kill 5 fighters and then die on the sixth one, it would be the same as another archer who went up and kill 6 fighters and died on the seventh but had to pull a 'protector' from his place in the line.  Likewise if someone killed 10 but had the entire line of 5 protectors helping him it would be about equal wouldn't it.

That would include fighters and archers work with each other against a common foe.  That seems more like what we want to promote.

Wilim

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Mike Catron <meggiddo at netzero.net>
Reply-To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:15:47 -0500

>I have question, which is - The fighter is a cut-out or something
>similar and not an actual fighter?
>
>If the answer is, Yes to the above question. If there are no real
>fighters involved in which the archer must survive then the scenario is
>extremely limited in scope and lacking in real world applications.
>
>I would suggest another scenario that our Central Region Warlord
>suggested to me at the joint Elfsea and Steppes practice Sunday at
>Randol Mills park.
>
>I wish to thank the Barony of Elfsea and HE Galen for hosting the
>practice there.
>
>
>If you wish to conduct such a Tournament then include 4 or 5 fighters
>with sword and shield, poles, ax and shield, etc... Space them out
>evenly across a wide field - which you should have at Warlord. Distance
>should roughly be 20 or 30 yards from the archer. Place the archer in
>the center.
>
>The archer must kill as many and/or all the fighters. The minimum
>distance that an archer can use their bow is 15 feet, anything shorter
>and the archer is disqualified.
>
>The fighters must remain at their location until the following occurs:
>
>The archer kills them, they walk off the field.
>
>An arrow flies within 10 feet of them, in which case they are now
>allowed to moved. In other words, they are now allowed to chase down the
>archer and kill the archer, if they can.
>
>The archer comes with 10 feet of them and thus freeing the fighter to
>move to give and/or join the chase to kill the archer.
>
>If the archer is not aware of the their placement or location on the
>field in relation to the fighters, then the scenario could be all the
>fighters are released by the archer who comes too close to them.
>
>This would demonstrate the necessary knowledge that a Combat Archer
>needs to survive on the battlefield. Then the title Combat Archer of
>Steppes from such a Tournament would actual means something in the world
>that a Combat Archer must fight in on the battlefield!
>
>Fighting at Gulf War in the open field battles demonstrated what is the
>normal for a lot of Combat Archers - meaning being run down by fighters.
>
>It would also provide an excellent means of training Combat Archers for
>action involving fighters.
>
>The above scenario should include both experience and brand new
>individuals to archery, plus the same type of mix for the fighters. In
>addition, getting fighters and archers working together in a training
>scenario. This would provide a true taste of combat for all involve.
>
>In the long run it should provide Combat Archers with some clue of what
>they can expect in future battles for the glory of Ansteorra!
>
>
>Michael of the Fray
>
>
>
>ironwyrm at juno.com wrote:
>>
>> Both target and real archer, a contest of both cunning and skill!  The
>> archer will be required to not just kill his opponent but also defend his
>> own static fighter target before limited arrows & time run out.
>>
>> It should be fast and furious, a hoot to watch as well as compete!
>>
>> Ironwyrm
>>
>> On Fri, 11 May 2001 10:28:25 -0500 "Dewart, Charles R. --G3 Contractor
>> (Anteon Corp)" <Charles.Dewart at hood.army.mil> writes:
>> > OK, sounds good to me.  Unless there's a better idea, go ahead and
>> > talk to
>> > the event stewards.  I'll wait till to Announce till I hear from
>> > you.  It
>> > would be nice to be able to announce several right off the bat.
>> >
>> > Now on this combat archer thing is that a real archer vs. archer or
>> > are we
>> > shooting at targets representing our opponents?
>> >
>> > Gilli
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: ironwyrm at juno.com [mailto:ironwyrm at juno.com]
>> > Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:24 AM
>> > To: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Auction
>> >
>> >
>> > Gilli,
>> >
>> > Steppes Warlord is coming up on the 25th of May (Memorial Day
>> > Weekend),
>> > if this not too soon for you to put together an auction I belive I
>> > can
>> > clear it with the Autocrats.
>> >
>> > On Saturday morning at 11 AM there will be a Combat Archery
>> > Tournament
>> > held for the title of Combat Archer of the Steppes.
>> >
>> > Since this is the first time this tournament has been held (as I
>> > know) we
>> > hope it will draw a good number of competitors to be the premier
>> > title
>> > holder.  It would also seem to be a good starting place to kick the
>> > auctions off.
>> >
>> > Your thoughts?
>> >
>> > Ironwyrm
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, 11 May 2001 09:51:50 -0500 "Dewart, Charles R. --G3
>> > Contractor
>> > (Anteon Corp)" <Charles.Dewart at hood.army.mil> writes:
>> > > Greetings and Hi There,
>> > >
>> > > If there isn't a real good reason not to, I will post to the
>> > > announce list
>> > > about the silent auction to support compiling with the SEM's new
>> > > ruling.
>> > >
>> > > The funds will be handled by me and not a SCA treasurer.
>> > >
>> > > Funds collected but not needed for the refit will be donated to
>> > the
>> > > Kingdom
>> > > for the publication and distribution of a new Participants
>> > Handbook.
>> > >
>> > > I will also ask at that time for combat archers to start
>> > registering
>> > > with
>> > > me, for lack of a better word, to get the refit assistance.
>> > >
>> > > Anyone else have an upcoming event that we can start getting ready
>> > > for more
>> > > auctions?
>> > >
>> > > Well, Gilli, how much money we going to need?  Honestly, I don't
>> > > know.  But
>> > > I do know that if we wait till the dust has settled before we
>> > start
>> > > on it
>> > > that we'll be way behind the power curve.  But whatever we collect
>> > > that
>> > > isn't needed for the refit will do something else for the Kingdom
>> > > that it
>> > > needs; a win-win.
>> > >
>> > > Gilli
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