[Ansteorra-archery] Current TI

Bob Dewart gilli at seacove.net
Thu Apr 25 05:10:22 PDT 2002

I'm not saying you'd have to be  a paid member. Just pay $3 per event more
and stay a non paid member.

However there area few points that need to be made.  The California thing
hasn't a thing to do with it.  The insurance we have is not for personal
injury or for property damage of SCA members.  It's to protect SCA officers,
while doing their SCA job correctly, from lawsuits.  This sport can be
dangerous at times.  That little blue card you get and sign acknowledges
that you know its potentially hazardous.  It has saved the Society 4 for 4
times we were sued.

If you're a paid member, the wavier you sign takes care of a lot of
paperwork.  Non paid members cause a mountain of paperwork to be created and
then stored for a number of years.  So if someone comes up two years from
now to sue us, we have on file where they knew what they were getting into.
This costs money and takes up time to make and store.

Being a paid member helps maintain the frame work of the SCA around the

If you ever get a chance to take a class on the BoD by Paul Mitchell or as
we know him Sir Rodri, I think everyone would learn allot about the workings
of the BoD, the SCA and membership is important.

Both spouses don't have to be sustaining members.  Darcy and are have a
sustaining and a family membership.

----- Original Message -----
From: "cehuse" <cehuse at sbcglobal.net>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 12:42 AM
Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] Current TI

> I usually just lurk here and gain all the knowledge I can concerning
> However, I'm sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with you m'lord.
> There are many of us in this society who simply can not afford the
> $35/year/person. If my lord and I had to shell out $70 a year for
> then we would have to drop out and that would be a shame. Why? Until, I
> pregnant with Paige, Phelippe and I were very much core members of Elfsea.
> that she has been born and I have my strength back, we will be getting
more into
> the swing of things again.  Anyway, every time someone says at an event or
at a
> meeting or whatever, "I need help with <insert job here>." One of us is
there in
> an instant.
> To make fees mandatory would be a very bad thing....it could potentially
> away our core members....especially in these trying economic times.
> Ok, I always say if you have a criticism, make a suggestion, just don't
> about it. So here goes...
> 1) I think that to have a membership card to hold any warranted office and
> Chirurgeonate is a good thing. This protects our officers from liability.
> 2) Make the TI an option...if you don't want the membership to TI, then
the BoD
> could take that money and give it to the individual Kingdoms for their
> newsletters. This I would not mind doing once I can afford to get my
> again. I had a membership for 2 years and I only read 1 article because
none of
> the other articles interested me in the least. I would much rather see my
> go to the Black Star (a publication I read from cover to cover) than a
> publication I glance at and then basically throw it away. For me, it was a
> waste of money that could have gone elsewhere.
> 3) Gerita said, "get the BOD out of California, the most litigious state
in the
> Union". I totally agree. Bring them here to Texas! Mundanely (before Paige
> along), I was a legal assistant and here in Texas there is a law that
> frivolous lawsuits (how does treble damages sound? This means that the
> (potentially the SCA) could turn around and reclaim triple damages from a
> frivolous lawsuit...Can you say OUCH??!!) I also agree that the insurance
> would be allot lower here than in California. Gerita is right about
> being most litigious state in the Union. Have you ever wondered why all
> court shows are based in California (like People's Court, Divorce Court,
> Judge Judy)? Because it's easy to sue, win and collect any "damages"
> Stepping off the soap-box for now and going back to lurking mode. ;-)
> Lady Maria de Vasquez
> Barony of Elfsea
> *** St. Theresa's Prayer ****
> May today there be peace within
> May you trust your highest power that you are exactly where you are meant
> be....
> May you not forget the infinite possibilities that are born of faith
> May you use those gifts that you have received, and pass on the love that
> been given to you....
> May you be content knowing you are a child of God....
> Let this presence settle into our bones, and allow your soul the freedom
> sing, and dance,
> It is there for each and every one of you....
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sure, here's exactly what my recent letter said.  I didn't mean to start
> > discussion here about this.  But until something archery related comes
> > what the heck?
> >
> > Greetings and Hi There,
> >
> > I just read in my TI (how about that a paid member) about the revenue
> >
> > Here is my suggestion:  do not, in any way lessen what benefits a paid
> > member currently gets.  Reinstate the non member surcharge and make it
> > permanent.  Since this is under the heading of other options, I get the
> > feeling you folks are in favor of non members getting a free ride at the
> > expense of the PAID members.
> >
> > I have been a paid member for a number of years.  I'm tired of watching
> > membership costs go up while non members are unaffected.
> >
> > My current membership is up in December this year.  How you folks handle
> > this will determine my renewal or NOT.
> >
> > How about show a little backbone on this one?
> >
> > HL Gilbert Ost Westley "Gilli"
> > Membership # 51181
> > Charles R. Dewart
> > 2402 Live Oak Dr
> > Copperas Cove, TX 76522
> > (254) 547-9705
> > gilli at seacove.net
> > Southern Regional Archery Marshal
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