[Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War XIII Combat Archery Stats
Greylond Aston
greylondaston at yahoo.com
Sun Aug 1 14:46:08 PDT 2004
I helped out at the Inspection points on 2 different
days. I liked it because I got to see many different
sytles of Arrows/APDs. Due to the likes/dislikes and
rules within Ansteorra, I've gotten used to seeing
what we use here and so many of us are starting to use
the same style of arrows as we find what works for
Ansteorran Archers. At GW not only do you get to see
Ammunition that is legal in other Kingdoms, but you
get to see examples of the various experimental
designs that are out there. It was very educational.
It is also a good time to meet and chat with Archers
from distant lands face-to-face instead of the
impersonal forums of the Internet.
Also, I helped Marshal the "Friendly" Archery Fort
Battle(Non-War Point). Very educational for a new
Combat Archery Marshal. I highly recommend every
Archery Marshal help be a Field Marshal at Gulf Wars
if you haven't done so in the past. It allows you to
get a good overview of what is happening in a battle
of that size instead of just getting the tunnel vision
that often occurs when you are concentrating on
staying alive and putting arrows on target.
Greylond
--- arcusironwyrm at juno.com wrote:
> You know I hate to make a shameless plug but this
> does seem like a
> good opportunity to do so. One of the things we are
> always short of
> in combat archery during Gulf War is marshals, both
> inspecting & field.
>
> It's always the same archery marshals volunteering
> to work the inspection
>
> stations and battlefields. If you're interested in
> how this all works I
> would
> strongly suggest you get involved by volunteering as
> archery marshals
> this
> coming Gulf War XIV.
>
> Just a suggestion,
>
> Arcus Wm. Ironwyrm
> Royal Huntsman of Ansteorra
> (up for grabs at Lughnasad)
>
> On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:57:50 -0500 "Richard
> Threlkeld"
> <rjt at softwareinnovation.com> writes:
> > That is certainly a valid point. We normally
> assume that fighters
> > will do the right thing. This is a society based
> on Chivalry and we
> > expect it of the fighters. Someone who is not
> qualified to use a
> > weapon should not pick it up and use it.
> >
> > On the counter to that, we did mark the fighters
> who had unpadded
> > glave or fiberglass spear or both with clear
> markers a couple of
> > years ago. They apparently thought there were
> people who were
> > picking up a spear or glave and using it without
> being qualified to
> > do so. I don't know the results of that. It did
> cause those people
> > to be preferred targets by the other side on the
> assumption that
> > someone who has more qualifications is more
> dangerous (not true in
> > my case, for instance).
> >
> > But overall, we don't want to put any beaurocracy
> in place unless we
> > have to. The marshals are busy enough without
> looking for people who
> > are cheating.
> >
> > In service,
> > Caelin on Andrede
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From:
> ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=acm.org at ansteorra.org
> on behalf
> > of jim hodek
> > Sent: Fri 7/30/2004 11:37 AM
> > To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
> > Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War
> XIII Combat Archery
> > Stats
> >
> >
> > How do the marshalls know if any Joe Schmo who is
> an authorized
> > fighter, but not authorized combat archer isn't
> out there shooting
> > his crossbow or bow with no idea what the rules
> are. This seems to
> > present a safety concern for the fighters and
> spectators.
> >
> > Richard Threlkeld <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > We inspect the fighter and his/her weapons
> separately and
> > mark each of them. Any correctly marked fighter
> may use any
> > correctly marked weapon in an appropriate way. We
> do not require the
> > weapons only be used by the fighter for whom they
> were inspected.
> >
> > In service,
> > Capelin on Andrade
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From:
> ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=acm.org at ansteorra.org
> on
> > behalf of jspinks at ix.netcom.com
> > Sent: Fri 7/30/2004 8:47 AM
> > To: eadric at scabrewer.com; Archery within
> the Kingdom of
> > Ansteorra
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf
> War XIII Combat
> > Archery Stats
> >
> >
> >
> > Having not been to Gulf War yet (maybe
> next year) and not
> > knowing the procedure I would like to inquire of
> one thing- I
> > understand the logic of getting equipment
> inspected in bulk but are
> > there no direct records of authorized combat
> archers and marshals
> > that could! use the equipment? If safety is the
> main concern then it
> > would seem we should know who is using the
> equipment.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eadric Anstapa
> > Sent: Jul 27, 2004 4:48 PM
> > To: ansteorra-missile at ansteorra.org
> > Cc: ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Some Gulf War
> XIII Combat
> > Archery Stats
> >
> > The Ansteorran Archery Marshallate has
> kept logbooks at our
> > inspection points at Gulf War for the past
> two years. This
> > past
> > year the Meridians joined us so now we
> have data that may or
> > may not
> > have some meaningful information depending
> on how you want
> > to look
> > at it. For me at least it is interesting
> and may be useful
> > to our
> > command and marshallate.
> >
> >
> >
> > There appear to have been about 140
> archers at war. We say
> > "about"
> > because sometime a unit will send one
> person down to get all
> > their
> > gear inspected so it is difficult to get
> an exact count on
> > the
> > number of archers. Some archer! s would
> come and get 5 or
> > more sets
> > of equipment inspected.
> >
> > There where 114 unique medalion numbers
> that came through
> > the
> > inspection point so we are pretty sure
> there where at least
> > that
> > many archers.
> >
> > There where 174 distinct bows or crossbows
> inspected so
> > there
> > theoretically could have been as many as
> as 174 archers on
> > the field
> > at one time.
> >
> > If ya go by where the bows or crossbows
> came from:
> > 31% of the archers where from Meridies
> > 30% of the archers where from Ansteorra
> > 28% of the archers were from Trimaris
> > 5% from the Middle
> > 3% from Calontir
> > 1 archer each from kingoms of Atlantia,
> West, and
> > Aethelmarc.
> >
> > Ansteorra and Allies were outnumbered 3/2
> with roughly 60%
> > of the
> > archers with Trimaris and her allies and
> 40% to Ansteorra
> > and our
> > Allies.
> >
> >
> > There were 103 crossbows inspected at war.
>
> >
> > There were 3 heavy crossbows over 600 IP.
> All three heavy
> > crossbows
> > were from our Midrealm allies.
> >
> > Avera! ge in/lbs for crossbows was 466.
> Low was 228. High
> > was 782
> > (heavy crossbow, there was an 800 limit).
> >
> > It looks like the average crossbow by GW
> Kingdom was:
> >
> > Meridies 425 Inch Pounds
> > Ansteorra 481 Inch Pounds
> > Trimaris 491 Inch Pounds
> >
> >
> > There were 71 bows inspected at war. There
> were 11 heavy
> > bows over
> > 30#. One heavy bow was from Aethelmarc,
> the other 10 frm the
> > Middle
> > and Calontir. Average bow poundage was
> 30#. Low was 16#;
> > high was
> > 48# (heavy bow).
> >
> >
> > There 4237 total bolts, and 2417 total
> arrows.
> >
> > Of those 240 arrows/bolts where of the
> large tube designs
> > for heavy
> > bows and crossbows.
> >
> >
> > There were 321 wooden shafted bolts, none
> were from
> > Ansteorra. 80
> > from Atlantia, 107 from Meridies, 174 from
> Trimaris.
> >
> >
> > There were 104 wooden arrows of which only
> 6 where from
> > Ansteorra,
> > 80 where from Trimaris, 18 from Meridies.
> >
> >
> > For APDs 41% were Asgard APDs, 31% were
> Siloflex APDs, 23%
> > were Golf
> > Tube ! APDs, and 5% where some other minor
> types.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Arcus Eadric Anstapa
> > Kingdom Archery Marshal, Ansteorra
> > eadric at scabrewer.com
> >
> >
> >
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