[Ansteorra-archery] The naming of Arcus Majoris students...

[Kevin Black]

Well said ya Newf, although I do disagree with you from a personal 
standpoint in that the word fledgling to me just sounds a little silly.  But 
I do agree with what your saying.  Students themselves be they apprentices, 
proteges or squires (or actually students as that's the equivalent term for 
the "squires" for masters of arms) hold no true rank, therefore it's not as 
Wilim said Squire Wilim, thus it isn't as important to have a name that 
rolls off of the tongue as it is for the award they're striving for.

While I don't personally have a horse in this race, not being an archer 
primarily, I personally prefer the term yeoman.  While it may not be an 
exact term, it seems to me to be the closest and doesn't sound silly.

I disagree with journeyman, due to the definition that I'm familiar with 
(which I'll admit may not be ideal) of someone who's graduated from the 
student phase but just hasn't yet completed their master work.  Of course I 
personally think we should have a three phase recognition structure as 
opposed to the two phase which would bring in apprentice/journeyman/master 
or page/squire/knight, but then again I'm also slightly mad.

I do agree with the short from being Archos, it sounds decent.  Means IIRC 
archer and is a better honorific than HL since no one I know uses Honorable 
Lord / Honorable Lady in ordinary conversation.



Hubert d'Aiguës-Mortes
Qui fait plus, mieux vaux




>
>If an old man most of you have probably never heard of can interject.  I
>vote for Fledgling.  The root Fledge is another term for putting feathers 
>on
>an arrow, also to take care of a young bird until it is ready for flight.  
>A
>Fledgling is a young bird with it's flight feathers.  Both of these seem to
>me to sum up the relationhip and the process.  An Newly Fledged arrow still
>must be tested and tuned before I would call it complete.  Anyway it's hard
>for me to describe because it seems the obvious name to me.
>
>As to the short form for the Order,  I like the sound of simply Arcus.
>Arcus Fearghus MacKenna, Arcus Gilbert ost Westley, Arcus Sebastian Eton
>Frobishire to Name a few.  Don't know about you but it rolls off my tongue.
>
>Ld. Robert of Yorkshire, Fledgling to Arcus Gilbert Ost Westley  Sounds
>about right too.  I mean it's not like it has to be Fledgling Robert of
>Yorkshire any more than I'm Squire Wilim.  Ld. Edward MacTavish, Fledgling
>to Arcus Gilbert ost Westley rolls pretty good.
>
>Some might say Fledgling lacks the dignity of Yeoman or Huntsman or
>something.  I'd say to them that it will have all the dignity that the
>current and future Fledglings bring to the name.
>
>YiS,
>     Ld. Wilim Penbras
>

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