[Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division

Bob Dewart gilli at hot.rr.com
Mon May 3 15:05:15 PDT 2004 

If that were the case I would have dropped the Youth Division idea many
posts ago.  Because it seem that I'm the one who appears to be out of step.
I will not let what may appear to be adverse opinion stop me in doing what I
think is the right thing to do.

Gilli
The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division


> Fine, I give. It's not worth the energy to comment more. You asked for
> opinions and you got them. Mind doesnt agree with yours, fine. I keep
> forgetting that having differing ideas isn't the norm around here. Go with
> the flow and agree with everything. Got it.
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
> Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of
> Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
> Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:54:24 -0500
>
> And neither did I till about 6 months ago.  I had to go to other ranges or
> secure land in various place on which to put a range.
>
> More of the same inadequate stuff is going to be just that.
>
> And you, plus a few others, are validating a point I've had for some time
> now.  It is easier to come up with excuses why something can't or
shouldn't
> be done than it is to find one reason to do it.
>
> But I don't recal you typing (is that better) that you'd support the
program
> either.
>
> Gilli
> The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
> To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
>
>
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: "Bob Dewart" <gilli at hot.rr.com>
>  > Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of
>  > Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>  > To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
>  > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>  > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
>  > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:45:38 -0500
>  >
>  > How do you think the "big shots" got to be that way?  Just one word.
>  > Practice.  Not all of us live on big pieces of property or have a range
> in
>  > our backyard. I'd love to be able to put the hours in that you do.
Again,
>  > getting the kids out to practice is the biggest thing. Thanks for
> validating
>  > that arguement.
>  >
>  > Perhaps the archery community is differant up there.  But all
>  > skill levels are welcomed here. Are they? I've seen that kind of thing
on
>  > the surface or heard about it from lots more places than 'up here', and
> have
>  > seen people talk the talk, but not all of them practice what they
preach.
>  >
>  > So, if there was a Youth Division you would not support it?  Is that
what
>  > I'm hearing?  Because it might help the kid to become better than you
can
>  > be?  Did I get that correct? Well you need to learn to read better. I
> didnt
>  > say anywhere that I wouldnt support it, I said that I think we can work
> with
>  > what we have and improve on how we use it.
>  >
>  > I'd be tickle pink if a kid could out shoot me.  Means will have better
>  > scores for the IKAC and IKCAC. I'd rather have a kid shoot better than
me
>  > because he loves to shoot for the joy of it and not necessarily the
>  > competition. I think that we place a bit too much emphasis on that
aspect
> of
>  > the sport. That's why it isn't much fun for some of the kids or novices
> to
>  > shoot. You have validated another point of mine, thanks again.
>  >
>  > Gilli
>  > The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: "Susan Hill" <sueorintx at hotmail.com>
>  > To: <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>  > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:35 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
>  >
>  >
>  >  > A lot of people think that the kids get frustrated well, let me tell
> you,
>  >  > all of the novices, youth or otherwise do. I think it's not so much
an
>  > age
>  >  > thing as it is the way that the archery community as a whole seems
to
>  > treat
>  >  > the less experienced or lower scoring archers. Due to a physical
>  > condition,
>  >  > I will never be able to shoot particularly well. I have made bowman
by
>  > the
>  >  > skin of my teeth and will be fortunate to ever top that. I have
> recently
>  >  > watched a young man who had never shot before, outshoot my average
> within
>  > a
>  >  > couple of weeks. He is under 16. Unfortunately he doesn't come out
>  >  > regularly.
>  >  >
>  >  > I know that there are a few things that I can do to improve...give
up
> my
>  >  > longbow for a recurve probably would help a bit but I like the
> periodness
>  > of
>  >  > a longbow. I'm never treated badly, but it IS hugely intimidating to
> try
>  > to
>  >  > compete with the 'big shots', knowing that you will be out in the
> first
>  >  > round. Last year watching better shooters try to come up with
excuses
> and
>  >  > reasons to try to enter the Novice tourney at Warlord was very
>  > frustrating.
>  >  > Why can't we have chances at decent prizes without those that can
> shoot
>  >  > circles around us trying to jostle their way in? Whether joking or
> not,
>  > it
>  >  > did leave an impression.
>  >  >
>  >  > Getting the novices and the youth out to practices will do them as
> much
>  > good
>  >  > as another division and with less work. As the kids get older, at
>  > practices,
>  >  > make sure that they spend some time shooting at longer distances.
> Keeping
>  >  > them shorter will only delay their adaptation. Sooner or later they
> will
>  > hit
>  >  > the top of their age group and will have to shoot against the adults
>  > anyway.
>  >  > If they are still used to shooting shorter distances, they will
still
> be
>  > at
>  >  > a disadvantage, just as will any adult who only shoots at 20 yard
>  > distances
>  >  > indoors all year.
>  >  >
>  >  > Get them out to practices and more tournaments for novices and those
> in
>  > the
>  >  > lower rankings will make them more confident and score better
without
>  >  > keeping them at the kid's table, so to speak. That and really show
> these
>  >  > folks that you care. Take them under your wing. These are the people
> that
>  >  > the better shooters should be taking on as students and proteges.
Find
> a
>  > kid
>  >  > that has promise and guide them. Making a protege out of someone who
>  > already
>  >  > has an average in the 60's makes the whole idea of protege's useless
> as
>  > far
>  >  > as I am concerned. They already know most of what they need to do,
> they
>  > just
>  >  > need to practice more or refine their techniques a bit. It will be a
> lot
>  >  > more rewarding to invest the time to turn a kid who shoots into an
>  > archer.
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  >  > From: "Ron Bentley" <whitewolf at sabinenet.com>
>  >  > Reply-To: Ron Bentley <whitewolf at sabinenet.com>,        Archery
within
>  > the
>  >  > Kingdom of Ansteorra<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>  >  > To: <eadric at scabrewer.com>,        "Archery within the Kingdom of
>  >  > Ansteorra"<ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>  >  > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
>  >  > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:49:47 -0500
>  >  >
>  >  > I don't think there needs to be any new divisions either.
>  >  >
>  >  > My two sons shoot and if they would practice more. Not just before a
>  > shot,
>  >  > they would have higher scores.  For anyone to improve their scores,
> they
>  >  > must spend more time shooting.
>  >  >
>  >  > Aaron
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > ----- Original Message -----
>  >  > From: "Eadric Anstapa" <eadric at scabrewer.com>
>  >  > To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
>  >  > <ansteorra-archery at ansteorra.org>
>  >  > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:55 PM
>  >  > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  > Bob Dewart <gilli at hot.rr.com> said:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > > What do you all think?
>  >  >  > >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > I think that most youth particularly young men in that age range
>  >  >  > should be shooting witht he adults.  Most 15 year old boys are
>  >  >  > capable of shooting any bow at any range that I am.  VERY Few
>  >  >  > people shoot bows heavier than 45 pounds.  Most  (almost all)
>  >  >  > youngsters (boysw and girls) of that age are capable of drawing
>  >  >  > adult sized and weight bows and typically they learn more
quickly.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Personally I dont think there is a need to add any new divisions.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > Regards,
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  > --
>  >  >  > HL Eadric Anstapa
>  >  >  > Ansteorra
>  >  >  > eadric at scabrewer.com
>  >  >  >
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