[Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division

Anne texascathouse at yahoo.com
Mon May 3 20:13:59 PDT 2004 

For what it's worth ... I know my two boys are more challenged, more enthused about practice and training, more excited about learning new skills and excelling in them, when they are able to interact mainly with their peers.  I would like to thank you for thinking of what's best for the youth ....
 
~Anne

Bob Dewart <gilli at hot.rr.com> wrote:
If that were the case I would have dropped the Youth Division idea many
posts ago. Because it seem that I'm the one who appears to be out of step.
I will not let what may appear to be adverse opinion stop me in doing what I
think is the right thing to do.

Gilli
The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Hill" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division


> Fine, I give. It's not worth the energy to comment more. You asked for
> opinions and you got them. Mind doesnt agree with yours, fine. I keep
> forgetting that having differing ideas isn't the norm around here. Go with
> the flow and agree with everything. Got it.
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Bob Dewart" 
> Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of
> Ansteorra
> To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> 
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
> Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 22:54:24 -0500
>
> And neither did I till about 6 months ago. I had to go to other ranges or
> secure land in various place on which to put a range.
>
> More of the same inadequate stuff is going to be just that.
>
> And you, plus a few others, are validating a point I've had for some time
> now. It is easier to come up with excuses why something can't or
shouldn't
> be done than it is to find one reason to do it.
>
> But I don't recal you typing (is that better) that you'd support the
program
> either.
>
> Gilli
> The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan Hill" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Bob Dewart" 
> > Reply-To: Archery within the Kingdom of
> > Ansteorra
> > To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
> > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 21:45:38 -0500
> >
> > How do you think the "big shots" got to be that way? Just one word.
> > Practice. Not all of us live on big pieces of property or have a range
> in
> > our backyard. I'd love to be able to put the hours in that you do.
Again,
> > getting the kids out to practice is the biggest thing. Thanks for
> validating
> > that arguement.
> >
> > Perhaps the archery community is differant up there. But all
> > skill levels are welcomed here. Are they? I've seen that kind of thing
on
> > the surface or heard about it from lots more places than 'up here', and
> have
> > seen people talk the talk, but not all of them practice what they
preach.
> >
> > So, if there was a Youth Division you would not support it? Is that
what
> > I'm hearing? Because it might help the kid to become better than you
can
> > be? Did I get that correct? Well you need to learn to read better. I
> didnt
> > say anywhere that I wouldnt support it, I said that I think we can work
> with
> > what we have and improve on how we use it.
> >
> > I'd be tickle pink if a kid could out shoot me. Means will have better
> > scores for the IKAC and IKCAC. I'd rather have a kid shoot better than
me
> > because he loves to shoot for the joy of it and not necessarily the
> > competition. I think that we place a bit too much emphasis on that
aspect
> of
> > the sport. That's why it isn't much fun for some of the kids or novices
> to
> > shoot. You have validated another point of mine, thanks again.
> >
> > Gilli
> > The more arrows you loose, the more that can hit GOLD.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Susan Hill" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
> >
> >
> > > A lot of people think that the kids get frustrated well, let me tell
> you,
> > > all of the novices, youth or otherwise do. I think it's not so much
an
> > age
> > > thing as it is the way that the archery community as a whole seems
to
> > treat
> > > the less experienced or lower scoring archers. Due to a physical
> > condition,
> > > I will never be able to shoot particularly well. I have made bowman
by
> > the
> > > skin of my teeth and will be fortunate to ever top that. I have
> recently
> > > watched a young man who had never shot before, outshoot my average
> within
> > a
> > > couple of weeks. He is under 16. Unfortunately he doesn't come out
> > > regularly.
> > >
> > > I know that there are a few things that I can do to improve...give
up
> my
> > > longbow for a recurve probably would help a bit but I like the
> periodness
> > of
> > > a longbow. I'm never treated badly, but it IS hugely intimidating to
> try
> > to
> > > compete with the 'big shots', knowing that you will be out in the
> first
> > > round. Last year watching better shooters try to come up with
excuses
> and
> > > reasons to try to enter the Novice tourney at Warlord was very
> > frustrating.
> > > Why can't we have chances at decent prizes without those that can
> shoot
> > > circles around us trying to jostle their way in? Whether joking or
> not,
> > it
> > > did leave an impression.
> > >
> > > Getting the novices and the youth out to practices will do them as
> much
> > good
> > > as another division and with less work. As the kids get older, at
> > practices,
> > > make sure that they spend some time shooting at longer distances.
> Keeping
> > > them shorter will only delay their adaptation. Sooner or later they
> will
> > hit
> > > the top of their age group and will have to shoot against the adults
> > anyway.
> > > If they are still used to shooting shorter distances, they will
still
> be
> > at
> > > a disadvantage, just as will any adult who only shoots at 20 yard
> > distances
> > > indoors all year.
> > >
> > > Get them out to practices and more tournaments for novices and those
> in
> > the
> > > lower rankings will make them more confident and score better
without
> > > keeping them at the kid's table, so to speak. That and really show
> these
> > > folks that you care. Take them under your wing. These are the people
> that
> > > the better shooters should be taking on as students and proteges.
Find
> a
> > kid
> > > that has promise and guide them. Making a protege out of someone who
> > already
> > > has an average in the 60's makes the whole idea of protege's useless
> as
> > far
> > > as I am concerned. They already know most of what they need to do,
> they
> > just
> > > need to practice more or refine their techniques a bit. It will be a
> lot
> > > more rewarding to invest the time to turn a kid who shoots into an
> > archer.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Ron Bentley" 
> > > Reply-To: Ron Bentley , Archery
within
> > the
> > > Kingdom of Ansteorra
> > > To: , "Archery within the Kingdom of
> > > Ansteorra"
> > > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
> > > Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 20:49:47 -0500
> > >
> > > I don't think there needs to be any new divisions either.
> > >
> > > My two sons shoot and if they would practice more. Not just before a
> > shot,
> > > they would have higher scores. For anyone to improve their scores,
> they
> > > must spend more time shooting.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eadric Anstapa" 
> > > To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> > > 
> > > Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Youth Archery Division
> > >
> > >
> > > > Bob Dewart said:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > What do you all think?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think that most youth particularly young men in that age range
> > > > should be shooting witht he adults. Most 15 year old boys are
> > > > capable of shooting any bow at any range that I am. VERY Few
> > > > people shoot bows heavier than 45 pounds. Most (almost all)
> > > > youngsters (boysw and girls) of that age are capable of drawing
> > > > adult sized and weight bows and typically they learn more
quickly.
> > > >
> > > > Personally I dont think there is a need to add any new divisions.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > HL Eadric Anstapa
> > > > Ansteorra
> > > > eadric at scabrewer.com
> > > >
> > > >
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