[Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper Report
ld.blackmoon
ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Mon Sep 8 17:50:38 PDT 2008
greetings
>The real reason is the way the Gates Edge event itself is run, not the
archery portion but the whole event. To win the over-all event
championship a person has to participate in X number of the individual
championships. Since the Rapier tournament is during a finite time in
the AM, and the Armored tournament during a finite time in the PM,
things like Archery and Thrown weapons kinda have to be open all day so
that people can come down and participate as they get free from the
other competitions and then go back to other competitions. To allow
people to come and go that means that once a target gets setup for the
championship tournament it has to stay setup right there in that spot so
that we can squeeze them in, in any order, and the tournament stays the
same for all shooters.
yes, northkeep is much the same , it started out you had to compete in 2 marshal activities and either a&s or bardic in order to win, but they later changed it to you have to compete in at least 3 activities one of which must be a & s or bardic , so now more than heavy fighters can win , as archery and thrown weapons are 2 different activities , and all people trying for the castellan position will have their total points ( given for 1st , 2nd , and 3rd place ) divided by however many activities they participated in.
so if you did so so in 3 events , you could beat someone that did well in 2 activities and poor in 2 activities.
believe me i know about only having 1 event to hold archery activities , as northkeeps events are 1 : castellan , camping event = static champions chosen , 2 : djonader , non camping , off calendar, demo = war leaders chosen ( usualy in a park where archery is forbidden ) , and 3 : winter kingdom , one day collegeum type classroom event , at a church school , again, in the city limits , where archery is forbidden )
>I think a better question is what prevents more branches from submitting
Royal Rounds at all. Right now in all of Ansteorra there are really
only 5 branches submitting scores regularly. Three in the North, one in
Central, and one in Coastal.
there are probably many reasons to be heard as why this marshal or that group " can't " turn in royal round scores , but i see it as some marshals just don't really want to plan in advance , or do paperwork , etc, its much easier to just do " fun shoots " so the marshal can play too , instead of recording scores , seeing who needs royal round tassels , planning away score trips , etc , .
i believe something i saw on another list may be completly trueor at least mostly true.
we expect our marshals to be both leaders , and marshals , and most people just arent interested in being both, or are just not able personality wise , to do both jobs. this doesn't mean that they are any less valuable to the missile community , or the society, it just means that perhaps we should be looking for leaders to lead , and let the marshals marshal ??
( ya know , if i keep putting in my 2 pence worth , i'll be broke by the weekend ; )
be safe, be happy, have fun
arthur
----- Original Message -----
From: Eadric Anstapa
To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Third Quarter 2008 Royal Round Keeper Report
Wendel Bordelon wrote:
> I know that the seneca run does take time. I had the pleasure to
> visit and watch from the side lines. But for the most part it is not a spectator event. I enjoyed visiting the people waiting in line for their turn to do the run.
> What I am curious about is what prevented shooting a RR? It might have been something for the people not doing the seneca run to do while they waited. You say that you were equipped to run a RR but it didn't happen. Was it a lack of marshals?
>
> Just curious,
> --Francois
>
Well not really a lack of marshals but the Seneca Run certainly takes a
lot out of the marshals. Think about it, if there was 24 competitors
running through that several hundred yard course that means 24 times
there was a marshals running along with them. Add that on top of
however many times spent walking back and forth to a 100 yd clout and
setting up and tearing down such a large range area and the marshals are
beat at the end of the day. It takes the Knights Marshal a small
fraction of the time to setup his list field as it does the archery
range because we aren't just plunking down target butts at 20/30/40 yards.
The real reason is the way the Gates Edge event itself is run, not the
archery portion but the whole event. To win the over-all event
championship a person has to participate in X number of the individual
championships. Since the Rapier tournament is during a finite time in
the AM, and the Armored tournament during a finite time in the PM,
things like Archery and Thrown weapons kinda have to be open all day so
that people can come down and participate as they get free from the
other competitions and then go back to other competitions. To allow
people to come and go that means that once a target gets setup for the
championship tournament it has to stay setup right there in that spot so
that we can squeeze them in, in any order, and the tournament stays the
same for all shooters.
If we wanted 5 color FITA targets to be part of our championship shoot
then we certainly could do that and have Royal Rounds easily but we
don't want that. We want something we feel is more challenging,
something more appealing to us that better reflects the skills we want
our archery champion to have, and less mundane.
Setting up a range for Royal Rounds to remain static all day could have
been done but would have required more room on our part, setting up the
Seneca Run different and meant that many more of the shooting stations
for the Seneca Run would have been hidden from spectators and of course
would have been more work for the marshals.
So, what prevented it? Absolutely nothing other than the choices we made.
But we are already looking at other choices that we can make for next
year that might allow more shooting, perhaps Royal Rounds, for those so
inclined without have to do away with the Clout and Seneca Run. However
quite honestly if it comes down to Royal Rounds or no Royal Rounds then
there are likely to be none since that is something that any branch
should be able to accomplish at their practices and for our single
calendar event our shire is allowed a year we want something a little more.
I think a better question is what prevents more branches from submitting
Royal Rounds at all. Right now in all of Ansteorra there are really
only 5 branches submitting scores regularly. Three in the North, one in
Central, and one in Coastal.
Regards,
-EA
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