[Ansteorra-archery] need some info.

[Chuck Kaun]

Those aluminum prods are approximately 60-65 pounds fyi.  They are Darkwood armory prods.  the draw length is approx 8 - 9 inches.  I will be seeing Rorik about the end of the month (if he shows up, hes been MIA for a while now)
 
 
Karl Thorgeirsson
> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:30:57 -0600> From: dannym at austin.rr.com> To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] need some info.> > How long is your draw, from the bow to the nut?> > Oznog> > Len Billett wrote:> > i was looking through an old list I had saved which basically had this > > . "Roric of Wolfstar has a number of the aluminum prods still for $40."> > does anyone have Roric of wolfstar's email. I am still looking to get > > rid of this 30" 80lb. xbow prod. in exchange for something in the > > 40-45 lb. range. just enough for everyday shooting , I dont need to > > peirce platemail or kill a bear lol. If anyone can help me out with > > my problem let me know.> > > > /Len Billett/> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > *From:* "ansteorra-archery-request at lists.ansteorra.org" > > <ansteorra-archery-request at lists.ansteorra.org>> > *To:* ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org> > *Sent:* Friday, February 13, 2009 2:00:06 PM> > *Subject:* Ansteorra-archery Digest, Vol 33, Issue 29> >> > Send Ansteorra-archery mailing list submissions to> > ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> >> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> > > > http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> >> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> > ansteorra-archery-request at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:ansteorra-archery-request at lists.ansteorra.org>> >> > You can reach the person managing the list at> > ansteorra-archery-owner at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:ansteorra-archery-owner at lists.ansteorra.org>> >> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> > than "Re: Contents of Ansteorra-archery digest..."> >> >> > Today's Topics:> >> > 1. Re: Survival of Combat Archery (Mike)> > 2. Re: Survival of Combat Archery (Eric Brown)> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > Message: 1> > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:26:00 -0600> > From: Mike <meggiddo at netzero.net <mailto:meggiddo at netzero.net>>> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Survival of Combat Archery> > To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra> > <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>>> > Message-ID: <4994BE18.50102 at netzero.net > > <mailto:4994BE18.50102 at netzero.net>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"> >> > To make that work in football, then all involved must come together to> > practice and Not just one or two times. Which is the normal given the> > size of this Kingdom.> > So, still not valid.> >> > Everyone better understand the basic principle in teaching - "KISS" -> > otherwise it gets to complicated and history is just full of..."I> > thought we were going to do A, D, E and H and not A, B, C, and J. "> >> >> > Michael Kettering> >> >> > Richard Threlkeld wrote:> > > Sort of like in football, your commands only need to be understood > > by your> > > archers and maybe the commanders of the other groups on your side. > > So "12,> > > 54, hike" might mean everyone move to the right and shoot to the > > left. They> > > know *something* is happening and can see a gathering of archers, > > but they> > > don't know what they are doing or what the "do it now" command will be.> > >> > > In service,> > > Caelin on Andrede> > >> > > -----Original Message-----> > > From:> > > > > ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org>> > > > > [mailto:ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra > > <mailto:softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra>> > > .org] On Behalf Of Mike> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 21:19 PM> > > To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra> > > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Survival of Combat Archery> > >> > > Heilsa,> > >> > > To make this work, then you or someone will be yelling out commands -> > > which everyone will be able to heard and understand, on both sides!> > >> > > This has always been one of the major flaws in archers gathering in a> > > mass - so commands are yelled out and lo and behold - there is "No> > > Surprise."> > >> > > Been there and done that - and burned the both the T-Shirt and the> > > photos! Not worth the effort!> > >> > >> > > Michael Kettering> > >> > >> > > Eric Brown wrote:> > > > > >> Caladin Here, That reminds me... 2 things... I wanted to talk to Y'all> > >> about.> > >>> > >> 1. From what I've gathered by listening, one of His Majesties goals> > >> seems to be to minimize the "Drama and whining" at the war, and so the> > >> 15 piece of armor rule> > >> may have been in the nature of an understandably arbitrary attempt to> > >> quiet those who complained and argued for no archery in the ravine> > >> battle, while still letting our archers get out> > >> on the field of the ravine battle and kick butt. An unpleasant> > >> compromise if you will, who's goal was not realism, or even fairness,> > >> but to lessen the drama.> > >>> > >> Plus you've I hope you'll agree, all those spear lines with no shields> > >> in front that keep happening in the ravine battle are kind of like> > >> Christmas morning to good archers :).> > >> I know I spent a lot of the battle last year wishing I'd brought my> > >> crossbow :)> > >>> > >> 2. As General, I've been asked by several archers to think about> > >> interesting and different uses for archery, than the standard 30 foot> > >> spear/ solo sniper tactics that we've used for so long.> > >> I've been cogitating about asking the archers to mass up to try> > >> something interesting in one specific battle of one of the> > >> scenarios... It's not massed indirect fire,> > >> more like a big mass of skirmishers with rifles in naploeonic warfare,> > >> at least that's how I think it'd work in the idea that I have rattling> > >> about in my gourd.> > >>> > >> I know several of you have mentioned how much you'd like to try massed> > >> fire... and while this is not that, it's a step in that direction...So> > >> my real question is,> > >> Would you be interested in the possibility of being pulled together in> > >> one place for massed sniper work, once, in one specific battle, if the> > >> idea gets approved and agreed to by all involved, etc etc?> > >>> > >> I don't want to go into too much detail, but I'd want to gather most> > >> or all the archers in a specific place at a specific time early in the> > >> battle, and if the enemy does what I hope (a notoriously risky gamble,> > >> I admit) there would be a very brief window of utter devastation. Then> > >> you'd' all be free to run off and rejoin your units, move, or whatever> > >> you wanted to do... The downside of the Gamble being that if they> > >> don't do what I hope, you'll have wasted 5-10 min of your time ( and> > >> not being available for doing any counter archer fire), and then have> > >> to move to a new location or re-join yout units with nothing to show> > >> for it. You would not be being left out exposed to be destroyed, in> > >> case you were worried about that..> > >>> > >> This idea is not fully formed, nor has it been discussed with anyone> > >> except y'all, but I wanted to see if you thought it might be fun to> > >> take the gamble before I bothered talking to anyone else about it.> > >>> > >> If Y'all saw it as the moral equivalent of taking all the knights and> > >> making a super unit, theirby depriving all the units of their best> > >> assets, then I'd drop the idea entirely.> > >>> > >> What do Y'all think? Does that sound like fun?> > >>> > >> Caladin-> > >> Generalisimo.> > >>> > >>> > >> Mike Wyvill wrote:> > >> > > >>> Sir Guy, Honorable Lords and gentles all,> > >>> > > >>> I absolutely understand that our knights by and large support CA. And> > >>> all Ansteorran archers should as well. Sir Lyonel has posted to the> > >>> SCA Missile Combat list supporting us, I know personally of Duke> > >>> Aaron and Duke Ulsted and their support. Sir Alexis has crossbowmen> > >>> in his Blue Company so of course not all knights in or out of this> > >>> Kingdom oppose archery. And I did not post to the list to stir up> > >>> trouble. I just think we need to get an idea of our numbers so that> > >>> we can come up with effective tactics for the ravine.> > >>> > > >>> The Midrealm has declared for Trimaris. I believe that Calontir will> > >>> as well. So that means two units carrying scutums that will need> > >>> breaking. I believe that we, the archers, are best suited for that.> > >>> Baron Michel is our commander this year and I would like to give him> > >>> the tools to state what the archers can do for Ansteorra in the> > >>> ravine when asked.> > >>> > > >>> EdV> > >>> > > >> _______________________________________________> > >> Ansteorra-archery mailing list> > >> Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> > >> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > ____________________________________________________________> > > Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement> > > project.> > > > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6rx9ZpcAqjjEqppEFJFlberouH> > > 9n76FBzc0vQwqxC0dAUl1Q9r/> > > _______________________________________________> > > Ansteorra-archery mailing list> > > Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> > > http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > Ansteorra-archery mailing list> > > Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> > > http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> > >> > >> > >> > > > > -------------- next part --------------> > An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> > URL: > > <http://lists.ansteorra.org/pipermail/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org/attachments/20090212/64876968/attachment.html>> >> > ------------------------------> >> > Message: 2> > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:45:58 -0600> > From: Eric Brown <caladin at io.com <mailto:caladin at io.com>>> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Survival of Combat Archery> > To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra> > <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>>> > Message-ID: <4994FB06.9070005 at io.com <mailto:4994FB06.9070005 at io.com>>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed> >> >> > I count this a 1 for 1 against and a while lot of "I don't care"> >> > :)> >> > Any other votes/opinions, you can send them to me privately if you> > prefer at caladin at io.com <http://io.com/>.> >> > Thanks,> >> > Caladin-> >> >> > Mike wrote:> > > To make that work in football, then all involved must come together to> > > practice and Not just one or two times. Which is the normal given the> > > size of this Kingdom.> > > So, still not valid.> > >> > > Everyone better understand the basic principle in teaching - "KISS" -> > > otherwise it gets to complicated and history is just full of..."I> > > thought we were going to do A, D, E and H and not A, B, C, and J. "> > >> > >> > > Michael Kettering> > >> > >> > > Richard Threlkeld wrote:> > >> Sort of like in football, your commands only need to be understood > > by your> > >> archers and maybe the commanders of the other groups on your side. > > So "12,> > >> 54, hike" might mean everyone move to the right and shoot to the > > left. They> > >> know *something* is happening and can see a gathering of archers, > > but they> > >> don't know what they are doing or what the "do it now" command will be.> > >>> > >> In service,> > >> Caelin on Andrede> > >>> > >> -----Original Message-----> > >> From:> > >> > > ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra.org>> > >> > > [mailto:ansteorra-archery-bounces+rjt=softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra > > <mailto:softwareinnovation.com at lists.ansteorra>> > >> .org] On Behalf Of Mike> > >> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 21:19 PM> > >> To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra> > >> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Survival of Combat Archery> > >>> > >> Heilsa,> > >>> > >> To make this work, then you or someone will be yelling out commands -> > >> which everyone will be able to heard and understand, on both sides!> > >>> > >> This has always been one of the major flaws in archers gathering in a> > >> mass - so commands are yelled out and lo and behold - there is "No> > >> Surprise."> > >>> > >> Been there and done that - and burned the both the T-Shirt and the> > >> photos! Not worth the effort!> > >>> > >>> > >> Michael Kettering> > >>> > >>> > >> Eric Brown wrote:> > >> > > >>> Caladin Here, That reminds me... 2 things... I wanted to talk to > > Y'all> > >>> about.> > >>>> > >>> 1. From what I've gathered by listening, one of His Majesties goals> > >>> seems to be to minimize the "Drama and whining" at the war, and so > > the> > >>> 15 piece of armor rule> > >>> may have been in the nature of an understandably arbitrary attempt to> > >>> quiet those who complained and argued for no archery in the ravine> > >>> battle, while still letting our archers get out> > >>> on the field of the ravine battle and kick butt. An unpleasant> > >>> compromise if you will, who's goal was not realism, or even fairness,> > >>> but to lessen the drama.> > >>>> > >>> Plus you've I hope you'll agree, all those spear lines with no > > shields> > >>> in front that keep happening in the ravine battle are kind of like> > >>> Christmas morning to good archers :).> > >>> I know I spent a lot of the battle last year wishing I'd brought my> > >>> crossbow :)> > >>>> > >>> 2. As General, I've been asked by several archers to think about> > >>> interesting and different uses for archery, than the standard 30 foot> > >>> spear/ solo sniper tactics that we've used for so long.> > >>> I've been cogitating about asking the archers to mass up to try> > >>> something interesting in one specific battle of one of the> > >>> scenarios... It's not massed indirect fire,> > >>> more like a big mass of skirmishers with rifles in naploeonic > > warfare,> > >>> at least that's how I think it'd work in the idea that I have > > rattling> > >>> about in my gourd.> > >>>> > >>> I know several of you have mentioned how much you'd like to try > > massed> > >>> fire... and while this is not that, it's a step in that > > direction...So> > >>> my real question is,> > >>> Would you be interested in the possibility of being pulled > > together in> > >>> one place for massed sniper work, once, in one specific battle, if > > the> > >>> idea gets approved and agreed to by all involved, etc etc?> > >>>> > >>> I don't want to go into too much detail, but I'd want to gather most> > >>> or all the archers in a specific place at a specific time early in > > the> > >>> battle, and if the enemy does what I hope (a notoriously risky > > gamble,> > >>> I admit) there would be a very brief window of utter devastation. > > Then> > >>> you'd' all be free to run off and rejoin your units, move, or > > whatever> > >>> you wanted to do... The downside of the Gamble being that if they> > >>> don't do what I hope, you'll have wasted 5-10 min of your time ( and> > >>> not being available for doing any counter archer fire), and then have> > >>> to move to a new location or re-join yout units with nothing to show> > >>> for it. You would not be being left out exposed to be destroyed, in> > >>> case you were worried about that..> > >>>> > >>> This idea is not fully formed, nor has it been discussed with anyone> > >>> except y'all, but I wanted to see if you thought it might be fun to> > >>> take the gamble before I bothered talking to anyone else about it.> > >>>> > >>> If Y'all saw it as the moral equivalent of taking all the knights and> > >>> making a super unit, theirby depriving all the units of their best> > >>> assets, then I'd drop the idea entirely.> > >>>> > >>> What do Y'all think? Does that sound like fun?> > >>>> > >>> Caladin-> > >>> Generalisimo.> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Mike Wyvill wrote:> > >>> > > >>>> Sir Guy, Honorable Lords and gentles all,> > >>>> > > >>>> I absolutely understand that our knights by and large support CA. > > And> > >>>> all Ansteorran archers should as well. Sir Lyonel has posted to the> > >>>> SCA Missile Combat list supporting us, I know personally of Duke> > >>>> Aaron and Duke Ulsted and their support. Sir Alexis has crossbowmen> > >>>> in his Blue Company so of course not all knights in or out of this> > >>>> Kingdom oppose archery. And I did not post to the list to stir up> > >>>> trouble. I just think we need to get an idea of our numbers so that> > >>>> we can come up with effective tactics for the ravine.> > >>>> > > >>>> The Midrealm has declared for Trimaris. I believe that Calontir will> > >>>> as well. So that means two units carrying scutums that will need> > >>>> breaking. I believe that we, the archers, are best suited for that.> > >>>> Baron Michel is our commander this year and I would like to give him> > >>>> the tools to state what the archers can do for Ansteorra in the> > >>>> ravine when asked.> > >>>> > > >>>> EdV> > >>>> > > >>> _______________________________________________> > >>> Ansteorra-archery mailing list> > >>> Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> > >>> > > http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > > >> ____________________________________________________________> > >> Click here to find experienced pros to help with your home improvement> > >> project.> > >> > > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/PnY6rx9ZpcAqjjEqppEFJFlberouH> > >> 9n76FBzc0vQwqxC0dAUl1Q9r/> > >> _______________________________________________> > >> Ansteorra-archery mailing list> > >> Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> > >> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> > >>> > >> _______________________________________________> > >> Ansteorra-archery mailing list> > >> Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org > > <mailto:Ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>> > >> http://lists.ansteorra.org/listinfo.cgi/ansteorra-archery-ansteorra.org> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > >> > >> > > ____________________________________________________________> > > Aching back? 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