[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the Military

[Doug Copley]

That was all I understood as well, that it was just a case of looking 
for 2 crossed arrows and those would make a ready made source without 
having to make them or find another source. They were not for wearing on 
a uniform but were to be used as they would pertain to archery and the SCA.

And yes, you are right about the use of crossed arrows being done long 
before the army started using them. They also use emblems of signal 
flags, cannons, and medical corps, just to name a few and none of these 
originated in the army but were adopted by them and used in a specific 
manner to denote a specific skill set and training.

So I do not see it as disrespectful to use them in a manner that is 
clearly not an attempt in any way to pose as someone from the army.

Vincenti

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
> I believe that the emblem Lance was talking about is just two arrows in 
> saltier.  Not a specific badge or emblem that is specific to Special 
> Forces.  Yes they are used by the Special Forces, but they have been in 
> use for centuries before that for other purposes as well.  He was just 
> trying to find a ready source of the emblem.
> 
> Now if he wanted wear the emblem on an Army uniform, that would be 
> completely different.  Then again, it wouldn't matter if you wore a 
> white or red belt outside of an SCA setting either.  Context is important.
> 
> To sum up, I don't see any disrespect using something as generic as two 
> crossed arrows outside of a US Military setting.
> 
> Baron Donnchadh
> 
> 
> Eadric Anstapa wrote:
>> I am with Karl.  I think is is somewhat disrespectful to wear a badge 
>> worn by special forces officers, and intended for special forces 
>> officers, unless you have been a special forces officer.
>>
>> To me its kinda like if you went around wearing a White Bracer on your 
>> arm and you weren't a member of the Order.  I would be annoyed at 
>> someone who did that.
>>
>> Or better yet, if you decided to wear a Red Bracer, a Red Belt, and a 
>> Red Scarf.   Those items aren't "official" or protected by our kingdom 
>> law.  We simply customarily use them to mean something that is very 
>> special to those that wear them.  We honor those people who very 
>> carefully consider who they will give those customary insignia to by 
>> keeping to those customs and traditions and allowing them to remain 
>> special.  Why not honor those who have served our country in the 
>> special forces similarly?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -EA
>>
>> Chuck Kaun wrote:
>>> I am not sure how picky they are, but when I was active, if you 
>>> wanted some of the special stuff, you had to prove you deserved it.  
>>> Unless you know any officers in the special forces, most Joe's wont 
>>> be able to buy it in a PX.  
>>>  
>>> And to tell the truth, why not find an artist who can make stuff like 
>>> that?  Its kinda disrespectful to have those things if you havent 
>>> earned them.
>>>  
>>> Karl T.
>>>
>>>
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>>> From: huntsmanlance at cox.net
>>> To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
>>> Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:06:56 -0600
>>> Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from 
>>> someone in the Military
>>>
>>>
>>> *Hi all, we are looking for the brass crossed arrows pin that is used 
>>> by the Army Special Forces Officer. Here is a link to the site I 
>>> found that has the cheapest price and quantity …….. 
>>> **_http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html_*
>>> *The price at $5.00 a pin isnt bad but I thought maybe one of our 
>>> members who Serve could check their local base and see if they could 
>>> be bought at a lower price.*
>>> *If someone finds anything please e-mail me at huntsmanlance at cox.net*
>>> *Thanks!*
>>> *Lance*
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