[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someonein the Military

Fri Feb 6 10:48:32 PST 2009

Its ok everyone, we have found something else that is similar but not
exactly like the military ones.

So thanks everyone

Lance

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From: ansteorra-archery-bounces+huntsmanlance=cox.net at lists.ansteorra.org
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On Behalf Of Crandall
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:37 PM
To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from
someonein the Military

Were they hand made, and a true saltire rather than the obtuse angle of the
official badge, then I think you would not have a problem. 
The previous mentioned registered badge would be silver, so gold, or other
colors could be used. 

Crandall, Olde Phart 

"In all life one should comfort the afflicted, but verily, also, one should
afflict the comfortable, and especially when they are comfortably,
contentedly, even happily wrong." -John Kenneth Galbraith

--- On Fri, 2/6/09, Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair
<donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us> wrote:

From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair <donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone
in the Military
To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
<ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 11:27 AM

Out of curiosity, does that opinion extend to any crossed arrow emblem (say
one hand-cast by an artisan), or just the ones sold by the US Army?  Could
you tell the difference?

Just to make sure there is no confusion.  I in no way support the idea of
representing one's self with honors you haven't earned or in any way
disrespecting the honorable service of those in uniform.  I just believe
that crossed arrows are generic enough to mean different things in different
settings.

Thanks,
Donnchadh

Mike Wyvill wrote: 

As the father of an active duty Infantry sergeant, I can tell you his
opinion of wearing that.

But this is a family list.

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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:02 -0700
From: donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone
in the Military

I believe that the emblem Lance was talking about is just two arrows in
saltier.  Not a specific badge or emblem that is specific to Special Forces.
Yes they are used by the Special Forces, but they have been in use for
centuries before that for other purposes as well.  He was just trying to
find a ready source of the emblem.

Now if he wanted wear the emblem on an Army uniform, that would be
completely different.  Then again, it wouldn't matter if you wore a white or
red belt outside of an SCA setting either.  Context is important.

To sum up, I don't see any disrespect using something as generic as two
crossed arrows outside of a US Military setting.

Baron Donnchadh

Eadric Anstapa wrote: 

I am with Karl.  I think is is somewhat disrespectful to wear a badge worn
by special forces officers, and intended for special forces officers, unless
you have been a special forces officer.

To me its kinda like if you went around wearing a White Bracer on your arm
and you weren't a member of the Order.  I would be annoyed at someone who
did that.

Or better yet, if you decided to wear a Red Bracer, a Red Belt, and a Red
Scarf.   Those items aren't "official" or protected by our kingdom law.  We
simply customarily use them to mean something that is very special to those
that wear them.  We honor those people who very carefully consider who they
will give those customary insignia to by keeping to those customs and
traditions and allowing them to remain special.  Why not honor those who
have served our country in the special forces similarly?

Regards,

-EA

Chuck Kaun wrote: 

I am not sure how picky they are, but when I was active, if you wanted some
of the special stuff, you had to prove you deserved it.  Unless you know any
officers in the special forces, most Joe's wont be able to buy it in a PX.

And to tell the truth, why not find an artist who can make stuff like that?
Its kinda disrespectful to have those things if you havent earned them.

Karl T.

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From: huntsmanlance at cox.net
To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:06:56 -0600
Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in
the Military

Hi all, we are looking for the brass crossed arrows pin that is used by the
Army Special Forces Officer. Here is a link to the site I found that has the
cheapest price and quantity ....
<http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html>
http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html
The price at $5.00 a pin isnt bad but I thought maybe one of our members who
Serve could check their local base and see if they could be bought at a
lower price.
If someone finds anything please e-mail me at huntsmanlance at cox.net 
Thanks! 
Lance 

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