[Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the Military

ld.blackmoon ld.blackmoon at cox.net
Fri Feb 6 18:00:21 PST 2009


greetings 

as a navy veteran , i have my own opinions on it as well, they all agree with donnchadh ....

would i put a a seal pin on my leather jacket , any day . would i let anyone put a seal pin on my uniform , only after they incapacitate me so that i can't fight .

be safe, be happy, have fun
arthur 

be safe, be happy, have fun
arthur
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Wyvill 
  To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org 
  Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the Military


  As the father of an active duty Infantry sergeant, I can tell you his opinion of wearing that.
   
  But this is a family list.
   
  Engenulf


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  Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 19:46:02 -0700
  From: donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
  To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
  Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the Military

  I believe that the emblem Lance was talking about is just two arrows in saltier.  Not a specific badge or emblem that is specific to Special Forces.  Yes they are used by the Special Forces, but they have been in use for centuries before that for other purposes as well.  He was just trying to find a ready source of the emblem.

  Now if he wanted wear the emblem on an Army uniform, that would be completely different.  Then again, it wouldn't matter if you wore a white or red belt outside of an SCA setting either.  Context is important.

  To sum up, I don't see any disrespect using something as generic as two crossed arrows outside of a US Military setting.

  Baron Donnchadh


  Eadric Anstapa wrote: 
    I am with Karl.  I think is is somewhat disrespectful to wear a badge worn by special forces officers, and intended for special forces officers, unless you have been a special forces officer.

    To me its kinda like if you went around wearing a White Bracer on your arm and you weren't a member of the Order.  I would be annoyed at someone who did that.

    Or better yet, if you decided to wear a Red Bracer, a Red Belt, and a Red Scarf.   Those items aren't "official" or protected by our kingdom law.  We simply customarily use them to mean something that is very special to those that wear them.  We honor those people who very carefully consider who they will give those customary insignia to by keeping to those customs and traditions and allowing them to remain special.  Why not honor those who have served our country in the special forces similarly?

    Regards,

    -EA

    Chuck Kaun wrote: 
      I am not sure how picky they are, but when I was active, if you wanted some of the special stuff, you had to prove you deserved it.  Unless you know any officers in the special forces, most Joe's wont be able to buy it in a PX.   
       
      And to tell the truth, why not find an artist who can make stuff like that?  Its kinda disrespectful to have those things if you havent earned them.
       
      Karl T.



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      From: huntsmanlance at cox.net
      To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
      Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 14:06:56 -0600
      Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Greetings....I need some help from someone in the Military


      Hi all, we are looking for the brass crossed arrows pin that is used by the Army Special Forces Officer. Here is a link to the site I found that has the cheapest price and quantity …….. http://www.priorservice.com/arspfoofba.html
      The price at $5.00 a pin isnt bad but I thought maybe one of our members who Serve could check their local base and see if they could be bought at a lower price.
      If someone finds anything please e-mail me at huntsmanlance at cox.net 
      Thanks! 
      Lance 



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