[Ansteorra-archery] [Mm] How to increase TA, TW, and CA
Doug Copley
doug.copley at gmail.com
Tue Jan 13 05:26:54 PST 2009
Thanks for your comments and clarifications.
Several of us have pavilions and extra chairs that we just need to take
the extra time and effort to survey the field (perhaps early in the day
or eve day before) and then take our extra chairs and set things up.
I like the idea of more banners and flags!
Some of our people are multi-talented and have very good heralding
capabilities. My thought was to enlist their aid and support and they
could take turns so that they can continue to shoot and throw.
A wagon is a good idea also. Some people have problems walking longer
distances and though they may be able to get to the field they are
afraid that the return trip might be too much for them so they do not
attend. So a "wagon" going back and forth to the main area would allow
these people to bring their chairs enjoy the event and then return to
the main area. This type of support is something that we should make
sure is announced at court and is in the event description.
For the TW I have a couple more people that are ready to work with you
to get their authorizations. My goal is to have a number of marshals
that are cross-certified so that we can all support each other and work
together. I am building new targets and new target stands with larger
backings to help block more of the misses and reduce the amount of time
necessary to fetch weapons - you should see my back yard and my shed
right now:-)
I think you are right about meeting during the events. maybe it is
something that should be scheduled and listed or we just set the time
prior to the event and post it here for everyone to see. We can either
meet at the field, the main building, or a specific camp area (I would
be happy to volunteer ours since most of us are marshals and / or
participants).
I figured I would give you one easy shot at me, just make sure you could
hit me:-)
Vincenti
ld.blackmoon wrote:
> greetings
>
>
> not to change your mind , but to correct some of the observations ; )
> >Partially it is fun to watch people beat on each
> other:-)
> oh, like high school ,, now i see .
> >They have areas set up for
> spectators,
> nope , participants and those wishing to watch set up their own
> pavilions , unless your speaking of the baronial / kingdom pavilions ?
> > they have heralds announcing who is fighting, who is
> winning, what is happening, and who won, so it is to follow,
> would be nice , but most of the hearalds this far north want to herald
> the heavy / rapier fields .so you better grab and bribe your prospective
> herald early ; )
> >they even
> have some refreshments
> again , nope , they get the same refreshments everyone else gets , just
> lots more of them and people to serve them .
> but having our own is a very good idea ; )
> >I
> would really hate to think that someone that gets beat over the head all
> the time has been out thinking me:-)
> now ,now , vincenti , you should know by now , not to give me straight
> lines like that 8 )~~
>
> now for a couple you left out ..
> make the range more eye appealing , ( like eldern's poles and flags ) ,
> or one i like , have little shield shaped banners with all of you past
> champions devices drawn on them , and hung from the safety ropes , if
> you don't have enough to fill the line, make blanks and fill them in
> later ; )
> have a dedicated " wagon " driving people to and from the ranges , with
> room for pavillions, chairs, coolers , etc.
> set up your pavillions near the ranges with extra chairs for spectators .
> design and advertise your tourneys , so that they attract attention . (
> ikac and royals are for practices and before or after tourneys )
> you might be surprised at how many people come to watch if it sounds
> interesting enough .
>
>
> >For TW what about having more than one target and more than one thrower
> at a time? It seems that every event I have been at there is always only
> one at a time.
> your biggest problems there are going to be , each thrower needs his /
> her own marshal , all throwers would have to be throwing at the same
> time , and there would have to be safety range adjustments , so for the
> most part , you have the same problems in ta as you do in tw , you have
> to plan an interesting throw or shoot , and plan it to keep moving , its
> the dead time will be called boring ; )
>
> a boring tourney is a boring tourney , weather its on the heavy field or
> the archery range .
>
> personaly, i would like to start getting together at events with both tw
> and ta marshals so that maybe we can plan some more interesting shoots /
> throws .
>
> does this sound doable ??
> >The more we help each other and the more that we build these events the
> bigger and better they can be!
> we need to have this pretty much worked out very soon , if june is
> gonna fly on its own ; )
>
> be safe, be happy, have fun
> arthur
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Doug Copley <mailto:doug.copley at gmail.com>
> *To:* Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra
> <mailto:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org> ; Missile Marshals
> List <mailto:mm at lists.ansteorra.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2009 8:27 PM
> *Subject:* [Ansteorra-archery] How to increase TA, TW, and CA
>
> I am sure some of you have already thought about some of these things
> but I am sure that others have not thought about them so for those of
> you who have already thought of some of these things perhaps you
> will be
> able to provide some great insight on things that can be done. I have a
> marketing background and tend to watch and observe things and try to
> figure out why some things work better than others.
>
> What I have seen is that one of the hold-backs for CA, TW, and TA is
> that honestly they are very un-spectator friendly at the events that I
> have been to. I have seen the Chivalric fighters and they draw a good
> crowd but why do they? Partially it is fun to watch people beat on each
> other:-) But there are some other things. They have areas set up for
> spectators, they have heralds announcing who is fighting, who is
> winning, what is happening, and who won, so it is to follow, they even
> have some refreshments. Is it really that they have a better event or
> have they just been out-thinking us or just been doing it longer? I
> would really hate to think that someone that gets beat over the head
> all
> the time has been out thinking me:-)
>
> In Namron we have already started working with some of these ideas and
> we are going to be doing even more of them and seeing how they work for
> us too. Does anyone have any ideas of specific things that they have
> done or tried that worked really well (or really bad) that they could
> share with the rest of the group?
>
> Here in Namron we have already started working at having refreshments
> for people at the archery area, we are talking about trying some
> heralding and making sure that we have an area setup for spectators so
> that they can see what is happening. For the shooters we are discussing
> having some site tokens that they receive when they have their
> equipment
> inspected.
>
> For TW what about having more than one target and more than one thrower
> at a time? It seems that every event I have been at there is always
> only
> one at a time.
>
> The more we help each other and the more that we build these events the
> bigger and better they can be!
>
> YIS,
>
> Vincenti da Murano
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