[Ansteorra-archery] Target questions

Mike Gideon mg1m at swbell.net
Tue Nov 10 11:48:25 PST 2009 

Especially if it's cut at an angle like the Hipps targets I have.
The replaceable center round has a taper to it. I don't have measurements on them to say how much but I'm guessing less than 1/2"

Michel




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From: Doug Copley <doug.copley at gmail.com>
To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:17:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Target questions

I spoke with Samuel and he said that he thought that it was the 6# but he was not sure so he is going to check on it.

If we can get by with 4" thickness and do a 3' square target, it would be possible to cut each sheet in to 3 sections so you would get 1 1/2 targets per sheet so the cost would be $144 per target. There would also be a 1' strip that is 9' long that could be cut in to 1' squares so that when the center (Northkeep) gets shot out you would just cut an 11 1/2 square out of the center top and squeeze in a new center piece without even needing to glue it so that a few weeks later could do the same thing again. The butts that we use are 36" round so 3' square would actually be a little bigger.

Using the burlap cover sounds like a good idea.

BTW - How much are the grass butts running now?

Vincenti

ld.blackmoon wrote:
> greetings
>  if i remember correctly , the # 6 density was what was recomended, to be sure, contact samuel apdewi as he has been in contact with some of the calontir marshals concerning what type foam they have been using .
> with the measurements given, i would sugest cutting them in half, and glueing them together to give you a 4" thick 4' x 4'5" target butt , which should stop everything we can shoot at it , before it tears up any fletching ,
> northkeep has been experimenting, when you have a group of archers shooting double ikacs every sunday, and over half of them are shooting red tassell or better, the grass butts wear out pretty fast, we've been backing the targets with different types of foam , including the 2" x 2' x 2' ethylfoam targets you can buy at the store, the 2" ethylfoam targets lasted longer than any other foam we have tried, but it would have only been usable as a stand alone target for maybe 2 weeks
> we are currently looking for affordable foam suppliers as well,but like you have not been able to deturmine the best foam to stop bolts and shafts safely , and still keep it affordable .
> as for targets sucking tips off, tight butts suck off just as many tips as the foam targets, iv'e been told it helps if you rub car wax on your shafts , this is supposed to prevent arrows and heads sticking as much.
>  eadric, good call on the burlap, as that will also give the butts a more period apearance , while protecting the targets. : )
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
> Arthur
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>    Be very careful with the foam.  Some of those foams are tip
>    keepers.  The only thing more annoying than your fletchings getting
>    tore up a bit is losing half your tips in the target. As of this
>    point, the best targets I have ever shot at which do the least
>    amount of damage to equipment are the round grass butts like the
>    ones Northkeep has.  They last a decent amount of time and arent
>    really all that expensive if the cost is split up amongst several
>    people.  It is true that they are bulky and heavy and can be weather
>    dependant but are less so than the hay bales we often use (and lose
>    crossbow bolts in)
>          Karl Thorgeirsson
>          > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:54:48 -0600
>      > From: eadric at scabrewer.com
>      > To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
>      > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Target questions
>      >
>      > It will work. I would get the 6# density 2" thick and would probably
>      > setup multiple layers depending on how well it stopped the
>    arrows/bolts.
>      >
>      > Cover it with burlap. Just go to the local Fabrics store and but
>    some
>      > burlap. Sew some bags a lace the targets securely into the
>    burlap. Not
>      > only does this make them look better but it keeps the sunlight
>    off them
>      > and prolongs their life by preventing UV exposure.
>      >
>      > Remember that for crossbow shooters you are talking about needing to
>      > stop the arrows within about 8 inches or so to keep from
>    stripping the
>      > fletchings from the quarrels. There is nothing more frustrating that
>      > going to a tournament only to discover that that they have
>    inadequate
>      > target butts that are tearing up your equipment. So when making your
>      > decisions please get someone with a target weight crossbow to try
>    things
>      > out.
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      > -EA
>      >
>      >
>      > Doug Copley wrote:
>      > > I have heard people say that a good target is a high density
>      > > polyethylene. What is "high density"?
>      > >
>      > > I have found sheets that are:
>      > >
>      > > 2" thick by 4' x 9' that is 1.7# density for $65
>      > > 1" thick by 4.5' x 9' that is 4# density for $100
>      > > 1 1/2' thick 4.5' x 9' that is 4# density for $150
>      > > 2" thick 4' x '9 that is 6# density for $216
>      > >
>      > > Since we do not shoot compound bows we have slower fps on our
>    arrows
>      > > but they weigh more so they are harder to stop. What density
>    and what
>      > > thickness is needed to stop arrows that we shoot?
>      > >
>      > > all of these are local pickup for me in Oklahoma City so no
>    shipping.
>      > >
>      > > Does anyone have a better supply source for this type of foam?
>      > >
>      > > YIS,
>      > > Vincenti
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