[Ansteorra-archery] Target questions

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair donnchadh at cornelius.norman.ok.us
Tue Nov 10 11:23:48 PST 2009


About $130 each plus shipping.

Donnchadh

Doug Copley wrote:
> I spoke with Samuel and he said that he thought that it was the 6# but 
> he was not sure so he is going to check on it.
>
> If we can get by with 4" thickness and do a 3' square target, it would 
> be possible to cut each sheet in to 3 sections so you would get 1 1/2 
> targets per sheet so the cost would be $144 per target. There would 
> also be a 1' strip that is 9' long that could be cut in to 1' squares 
> so that when the center (Northkeep) gets shot out you would just cut 
> an 11 1/2 square out of the center top and squeeze in a new center 
> piece without even needing to glue it so that a few weeks later could 
> do the same thing again. The butts that we use are 36" round so 3' 
> square would actually be a little bigger.
>
> Using the burlap cover sounds like a good idea.
>
> BTW - How much are the grass butts running now?
>
> Vincenti
>
> ld.blackmoon wrote:
>> greetings
>>  
>> if i remember correctly , the # 6 density was what was recomended, to 
>> be sure, contact samuel apdewi as he has been in contact with some of 
>> the calontir marshals concerning what type foam they have been using .
>> with the measurements given, i would sugest cutting them in half, and 
>> glueing them together to give you a 4" thick 4' x 4'5" target butt , 
>> which should stop everything we can shoot at it , before it tears up 
>> any fletching ,
>> northkeep has been experimenting, when you have a group of archers 
>> shooting double ikacs every sunday, and over half of them are 
>> shooting red tassell or better, the grass butts wear out pretty fast, 
>> we've been backing the targets with different types of foam , 
>> including the 2" x 2' x 2' ethylfoam targets you can buy at the 
>> store, the 2" ethylfoam targets lasted longer than any other foam we 
>> have tried, but it would have only been usable as a stand alone 
>> target for maybe 2 weeks
>> we are currently looking for affordable foam suppliers as well,but 
>> like you have not been able to deturmine the best foam to stop bolts 
>> and shafts safely , and still keep it affordable .
>> as for targets sucking tips off, tight butts suck off just as many 
>> tips as the foam targets, iv'e been told it helps if you rub car wax 
>> on your shafts , this is supposed to prevent arrows and heads 
>> sticking as much.
>>  
>> eadric, good call on the burlap, as that will also give the butts a 
>> more period apearance , while protecting the targets. : )
>> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun
>> Arthur
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* Chuck Kaun <mailto:jack_a_lope31 at hotmail.com>
>>     *To:* ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
>>     <mailto:ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:35 PM
>>     *Subject:* Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Target questions
>>
>>     Be very careful with the foam.  Some of those foams are tip
>>     keepers.  The only thing more annoying than your fletchings getting
>>     tore up a bit is losing half your tips in the target. As of this
>>     point, the best targets I have ever shot at which do the least
>>     amount of damage to equipment are the round grass butts like the
>>     ones Northkeep has.  They last a decent amount of time and arent
>>     really all that expensive if the cost is split up amongst several
>>     people.  It is true that they are bulky and heavy and can be weather
>>     dependant but are less so than the hay bales we often use (and lose
>>     crossbow bolts in)
>>          Karl Thorgeirsson
>>           > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:54:48 -0600
>>      > From: eadric at scabrewer.com
>>      > To: ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org
>>      > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Target questions
>>      >
>>      > It will work. I would get the 6# density 2" thick and would 
>> probably
>>      > setup multiple layers depending on how well it stopped the
>>     arrows/bolts.
>>      >
>>      > Cover it with burlap. Just go to the local Fabrics store and but
>>     some
>>      > burlap. Sew some bags a lace the targets securely into the
>>     burlap. Not
>>      > only does this make them look better but it keeps the sunlight
>>     off them
>>      > and prolongs their life by preventing UV exposure.
>>      >
>>      > Remember that for crossbow shooters you are talking about 
>> needing to
>>      > stop the arrows within about 8 inches or so to keep from
>>     stripping the
>>      > fletchings from the quarrels. There is nothing more 
>> frustrating that
>>      > going to a tournament only to discover that that they have
>>     inadequate
>>      > target butts that are tearing up your equipment. So when 
>> making your
>>      > decisions please get someone with a target weight crossbow to try
>>     things
>>      > out.
>>      >
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > -EA
>>      >
>>      >
>>      > Doug Copley wrote:
>>      > > I have heard people say that a good target is a high density
>>      > > polyethylene. What is "high density"?
>>      > >
>>      > > I have found sheets that are:
>>      > >
>>      > > 2" thick by 4' x 9' that is 1.7# density for $65
>>      > > 1" thick by 4.5' x 9' that is 4# density for $100
>>      > > 1 1/2' thick 4.5' x 9' that is 4# density for $150
>>      > > 2" thick 4' x '9 that is 6# density for $216
>>      > >
>>      > > Since we do not shoot compound bows we have slower fps on our
>>     arrows
>>      > > but they weigh more so they are harder to stop. What density
>>     and what
>>      > > thickness is needed to stop arrows that we shoot?
>>      > >
>>      > > all of these are local pickup for me in Oklahoma City so no
>>     shipping.
>>      > >
>>      > > Does anyone have a better supply source for this type of foam?
>>      > >
>>      > > YIS,
>>      > > Vincenti
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