[Ansteorra-archery] Definition of Royal Huntsman

John iaenmor at swbell.net
Wed Nov 18 06:20:42 PST 2009


Vincenti, I will give you the best definition of the Royal Huntsman you 
will ever get.  It is whatever the Crown wants.  As such you are 
expected to travel with the crown or at least arrange to have someone 
there if you can not make it.  If the crown wants to act out the laying 
of meat on his table then go hunting.  If he wants you as a guard then 
you better have you armour on.  We as a community do not dictate to the 
crown but only ask them what they would like. 

The Kingdom Missile marshal is the one to consult with the crown along 
with the current Huntsman.  They are the ones who should implement their 
Majesties/Highnesses wishes as to what will go on in Their Tournament.  
We show up to shoot and then possibly serve. As stated before and I will 
say it again.  If you can't meet the requirements then bow out.  Have 
fun during the day but don't try to win if you can't meet their 
expectations.

Tradition has long been something we go by in this Kingdom.  Always have 
and most likely always will.  Not everything can be written down and 
then passed into law.  Tradition in this case means bring everything you 
got and bring your A game.  Tradition has also been that the format was 
not divulged before the Tourney.  Is it required no, but Tradition (damn 
there is that word again) has been that we do not disclose the format 
beforehand.  If/when you win the title and are setting up the Tourney 
for you successor and want to disclose the format beforehand then by all 
means do so. 

As to your last statement you are pretty liberal with the use of We.  
You might or some might but not all do.  Believe me the Huntsman Tourney 
has grown.  From nothing to every Crown holding it.  Why because the 
community made sure the Crown knew about it and arranged for it to be 
held.  The community made sure there was someone holding a bow/crossbow 
standing behind the Crown in court.  The Crown had their own personal 
archer at events, whether it was Target or Combat.  It took work and 
effort to make it so.  It has now become Tradition.  Hmm, how about that. 

Iaen

Doug Copley wrote:
> One thing that might help in these discussions is a better definition 
> of what is the Royal Huntsman.
>
> I have seen several people express their opinion of what the position 
> is and how they view it but it would help if there was a better 
> description that was posted so that the entire Kingdom would have the 
> same understanding.
>
> In my mind, part of the problem is that we have 3 different groups 
> that are or can be involved in this and all of this going 
> back-and-forth and saying that it may, might, could, possibly, include 
> certain types of shooting is actually bad for the tourney, the title, 
> and the archery community. I think it makes us look disorganized, 
> leaderless, and fragmented, all of which is bad.
>
> The 3 groups are:
> 1. Target archers that ONLY do target archery. I believe that this is 
> the largest group.
> 2. Combat archers that ONLY do combat archery. I believe that this is 
> the smallest group.
> 3. Archers that do BOTH combat and target archery. I believe that this 
> group is right in the middle as far as numbers.
>
> If the objective is to find a combat archer to go to war with the King 
> & Queen then the Tourney should be a CA Tourney. If the objective is 
> to find the best TA then it should be a TA Tourney. If the objective 
> is a combination then it should be a CA / TA Tourney and it should be 
> announced that it will be and if only one person shows up with all of 
> the gear and is able to compete in all of it they win.
>
> If we look at the other martial skills champions they may have some 
> things that vary and formats that might change slightly but they also 
> have a number of things that are ALWAYS included and it is known that 
> they must have certain items in order to compete. We should organize 
> ourselves and do the same thing.
>
> We should focus on skill type shooting of various distances, and 
> specify what is required to compete for Royal Huntsman. Do we want to 
> say that only TA or only CA is required or that both are required, 
> what about shooting period and requiring that you must shoot longbow, 
> or maybe longbow and crossbow and combat! (No, I am not kidding, for 
> Chivalric they must fight with multiple weapons in order to compete so 
> there is precedence).
>
> If the title is for the top Kingdom archer of all forms archery and 
> that they are supposed to go to war with the King & Queen and they are 
> supposed to fill the Royal table with meat then we should require that 
> to compete for the title you MUST compete with multiple forms of 
> archery and bows. If the title is different (Huntsman = Hunter = TA 
> ONLY) then we need to base the tourney on what the definition is.
>
> My apologies for this being so long but I believe that this is 
> important to the entire archery community and should be addressed. I 
> have looked for a clear concise description that would settle the 
> discussion but was unable to find one.
>
> When responding, please do not use "Well normally we have included 
> ...", we need to focus not on what was done in the past but what 
> should be done and what we want to do in the future, where do we want 
> this to be in 5 years, what do we want to be accomplished in 3 years, 
> how can we make this grow?
>
> YIS,
> Vincenti da Murano
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