[Ansteorra-archery] Definition of Royal Huntsman
Mike
meggiddo at netzero.net
Wed Nov 18 10:17:53 PST 2009
Heilsa,
Actually the cost of a starter helm can be less than $100.00. There is
one web site that listed their basic helm starting at $70.
Michael Kettering
Patrick R wrote:
>
> While I have a great deal of respect for combat archers, some archers
> do not wish to be combat archers. The expense involved, the necessity
> to be combat authorized, the limited number of times you will
> participate compared with the cost involved, the frustration of your
> hits not being called all add up to reasons some do not want to be
> combat archers. The more I read, the more it seems that the Huntsman
> is centered around combat archers or those who do both combat and
> target. The cost of just the helm for combat is more than the total
> start up cost to become competitive for target archery(someone can get
> competitive equipment for less than $165, bow/arrows/arm/finger guard).
>
>
>
> It seems we are trying to exclude the largest group of archers who can
> compete for a Kingdom archery title. If the kingdom wants the Huntsman
> to be another of the old boy group (those who use big sticks) so be
> it, I can live with that but lets call it what it is.
>
>
>
> Dante
>
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> --- On *Wed, 11/18/09, Doug Copley /<doug.copley at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Doug Copley <doug.copley at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Definition of Royal Huntsman
> To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:33 AM
>
> One thing that might help in these discussions is a better
> definition of what is the Royal Huntsman.
>
> I have seen several people express their opinion of what the
> position is and how they view it but it would help if there was a
> better description that was posted so that the entire Kingdom
> would have the same understanding.
>
> In my mind, part of the problem is that we have 3 different groups
> that are or can be involved in this and all of this going
> back-and-forth and saying that it may, might, could, possibly,
> include certain types of shooting is actually bad for the tourney,
> the title, and the archery community. I think it makes us look
> disorganized, leaderless, and fragmented, all of which is bad.
>
> The 3 groups are:
> 1. Target archers that ONLY do target archery. I believe that this
> is the largest group.
> 2. Combat archers that ONLY do combat archery. I believe that this
> is the smallest group.
> 3. Archers that do BOTH combat and target archery. I believe that
> this group is right in the middle as far as numbers.
>
> If the objective is to find a combat archer to go to war with the
> King & Queen then the Tourney should be a CA Tourney. If the
> objective is to find the best TA then it should be a TA Tourney.
> If the objective is a combination then it should be a CA / TA
> Tourney and it should be announced that it will be and if only one
> person shows up with all of the gear and is able to compete in all
> of it they win.
>
> If we look at the other martial skills champions they may have
> some things that vary and formats that might change slightly but
> they also have a number of things that are ALWAYS included and it
> is known that they must have certain items in order to compete. We
> should organize ourselves and do the same thing.
>
> We should focus on skill type shooting of various distances, and
> specify what is required to compete for Royal Huntsman. Do we want
> to say that only TA or only CA is required or that both are
> required, what about shooting period and requiring that you must
> shoot longbow, or maybe longbow and crossbow and combat! (No, I am
> not kidding, for Chivalric they must fight with multiple weapons
> in order to compete so there is precedence).
>
> If the title is for the top Kingdom archer of all forms archery
> and that they are supposed to go to war with the King & Queen and
> they are supposed to fill the Royal table with meat then we should
> require that to compete for the title you MUST compete with
> multiple forms of archery and bows. If the title is different
> (Huntsman = Hunter = TA ONLY) then we need to base the tourney on
> what the definition is.
>
> My apologies for this being so long but I believe that this is
> important to the entire archery community and should be addressed.
> I have looked for a clear concise description that would settle
> the discussion but was unable to find one.
>
> When responding, please do not use "Well normally we have included
> ...", we need to focus not on what was done in the past but what
> should be done and what we want to do in the future, where do we
> want this to be in 5 years, what do we want to be accomplished in
> 3 years, how can we make this grow?
>
> YIS,
> Vincenti da Murano
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