[Ansteorra-archery] Definition of Royal Huntsman

Mike meggiddo at netzero.net
Wed Nov 18 10:17:53 PST 2009


Heilsa,

Actually the cost of a starter helm can be less than $100.00. There is 
one web site that listed their basic helm starting at $70.



Michael Kettering



Patrick R wrote:
>
> While I have a great deal of respect for combat archers, some archers 
> do not wish to be combat archers. The expense involved, the necessity 
> to be combat authorized, the limited number of times you will 
> participate compared with the cost involved, the frustration of your 
> hits not being called all add up to reasons some do not want to be 
> combat archers. The more I read, the more it seems that the Huntsman 
> is centered around combat archers or those who do both combat and 
> target. The cost of just the helm for combat is more than the total 
> start up cost to become competitive for target archery(someone can get 
> competitive equipment for less than $165, bow/arrows/arm/finger guard).
>
>  
>
> It seems we are trying to exclude the largest group of archers who can 
> compete for a Kingdom archery title. If the kingdom wants the Huntsman 
> to be another of the old boy group (those who use big sticks) so be 
> it, I can live with that but lets call it what it is.
>
>  
>
> Dante
>
>  
>
>  
>
> --- On *Wed, 11/18/09, Doug Copley /<doug.copley at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Doug Copley <doug.copley at gmail.com>
>     Subject: [Ansteorra-archery] Definition of Royal Huntsman
>     To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
>     <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>
>     Date: Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 7:33 AM
>
>     One thing that might help in these discussions is a better
>     definition of what is the Royal Huntsman.
>
>     I have seen several people express their opinion of what the
>     position is and how they view it but it would help if there was a
>     better description that was posted so that the entire Kingdom
>     would have the same understanding.
>
>     In my mind, part of the problem is that we have 3 different groups
>     that are or can be involved in this and all of this going
>     back-and-forth and saying that it may, might, could, possibly,
>     include certain types of shooting is actually bad for the tourney,
>     the title, and the archery community. I think it makes us look
>     disorganized, leaderless, and fragmented, all of which is bad.
>
>     The 3 groups are:
>     1. Target archers that ONLY do target archery. I believe that this
>     is the largest group.
>     2. Combat archers that ONLY do combat archery. I believe that this
>     is the smallest group.
>     3. Archers that do BOTH combat and target archery. I believe that
>     this group is right in the middle as far as numbers.
>
>     If the objective is to find a combat archer to go to war with the
>     King & Queen then the Tourney should be a CA Tourney. If the
>     objective is to find the best TA then it should be a TA Tourney.
>     If the objective is a combination then it should be a CA / TA
>     Tourney and it should be announced that it will be and if only one
>     person shows up with all of the gear and is able to compete in all
>     of it they win.
>
>     If we look at the other martial skills champions they may have
>     some things that vary and formats that might change slightly but
>     they also have a number of things that are ALWAYS included and it
>     is known that they must have certain items in order to compete. We
>     should organize ourselves and do the same thing.
>
>     We should focus on skill type shooting of various distances, and
>     specify what is required to compete for Royal Huntsman. Do we want
>     to say that only TA or only CA is required or that both are
>     required, what about shooting period and requiring that you must
>     shoot longbow, or maybe longbow and crossbow and combat! (No, I am
>     not kidding, for Chivalric they must fight with multiple weapons
>     in order to compete so there is precedence).
>
>     If the title is for the top Kingdom archer of all forms archery
>     and that they are supposed to go to war with the King & Queen and
>     they are supposed to fill the Royal table with meat then we should
>     require that to compete for the title you MUST compete with
>     multiple forms of archery and bows. If the title is different
>     (Huntsman = Hunter = TA ONLY) then we need to base the tourney on
>     what the definition is.
>
>     My apologies for this being so long but I believe that this is
>     important to the entire archery community and should be addressed.
>     I have looked for a clear concise description that would settle
>     the discussion but was unable to find one.
>
>     When responding, please do not use "Well normally we have included
>     ...", we need to focus not on what was done in the past but what
>     should be done and what we want to do in the future, where do we
>     want this to be in 5 years, what do we want to be accomplished in
>     3 years, how can we make this grow?
>
>     YIS,
>     Vincenti da Murano
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