[Ansteorra-archery] [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman - Special Tourney Rules***

jack spinks jlspinks at sbcglobal.net
Mon Feb 13 11:15:21 PST 2012

Good points Arthur.  A number of arguments can be made for the reasons pro and con behind such a rule.  I for one lost most of my interest in combat archery when it ceased to resemble archery very closely and became so expensive to even get into the game.  Given the hits I once took when "noncombat" was allowed and you were dead with a fighter within a couple of yards of you, I also feel I cannot risk serious injury to artificial joints when fighters have full permission to whack me.  
One thing about it.  With these rules the Huntsman tourneys should be much smaller and faster since target-only archers need not apply. And there are not that many combat archers per group.  

--- On Mon, 2/13/12, Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net> wrote:

From: Ld.blackmoon <ld.blackmoon at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman - Special Tourney Rules***
To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>, "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Date: Monday, February 13, 2012, 11:29 AM


for years , combat archers have been trying to lose the image of combat archery as a target range activity ( ikcac ), in order to find common ground on the combat field, and to push the image that combat archery was just another heavy weapons form.
if combat archery is just another heavy weapons form, why does it take up more and more of the one event that is supposed to showcase the skills and attributes of the target archery community ?

it seems that more and more often the crowns will have two representatives from the heavy weapons community and no representatives from the archery community.( especially with the new rule that all finalists must be COMBAT archery authorized , since no target only archer may win royal huntsman from this point forward , as long as the heavy weapons format is included. )

will the combat archery representative for the crowns be the " war " representative for the heavy weapons community? as the kings champion is the " tourney " representative from the heavy weapons community ?
if so, has target archery fallen so far in status in ansteorra that we no longer deserve a place behind the thrones ?

I'm sorry if this offends anyone , but trying to add COMBAT archery , into target archery does nothing to promote either community.
and will do nothing to change the image of neither group being " manly " enough to go beat on people with sticks : (
combat archers have the opportunity to " shine " at any and every war ( except maybe Estrella ) that has combat archery and many war practices, as they are in front of both their heavy weapons peers, and the crowns.
target archers for the most part are rarely seen by the crowns except at the royal huntsman tourney.
if that is now being taken away ,where / when are the target archers supposed to shine for the crowns ??

sorry , it is my duty and my obligation to try to improve the sca , as well as the missile communities , and to advise the crowns when / if  I see something that will help or hinder either the sca , or the missile communities.
and this I see as being detrimental to both communities as well as the sca.

as always , just this old farts opinion.

Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur   c.a.o.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Copley" <doug.copley at gmail.com>
To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra" <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA, Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:33 PM
Subject: [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman - Special Tourney Rules***

> Greetings unto the Greatest Archers of the known world!
> TRHs will be holding a Tourney to find their Royal Huntsman and it will probably be held in May, they do not have a date or event yet.
> This tourney will have special requirements so they are being announced in advance so that everyone has an opportunity to be prepared.
> There will be both a target archery and a combat archery portion to the tourney. From these rounds the top archers will advance to the finals and will be asked by the Crown if they are ready and able to compete for the title and if they win are they ready to fulfill those duties and to serve the Crown. If they are not ready, or choose not to continue, they will be allowed to withdraw at that time and a replacement from the field will be called forward.
> *** Here are the special rules ***
> The final rounds will be Combat Archery Duels. All participants in the final rounds must be Combat Archery authorized and have photo ID, authorization card, and blue membership card (if they do not have their blue membership card they will have to sign a waiver).
> If you are not Combat Archery authorized you must be actively working on becoming one and you must contact me in advance of the event to receive a waiver for this.
> All finalists will have to pass armor inspection prior to entering the field. Those archers that are planning to compete for the title and wish to get their armor inspection done prior to the start of the tourney will be able to. All Combat Archery equipment will have to be inspected prior to the start of the tourney.
> As this is a tourney to select the Archery Champion for the Kingdom of Ansteorra, no loaner gear of any type will be provided. Each contestant will be responsible for providing their own equipment.
> As soon as a tourney date and site are selected I will post a notification to the list.
> If you have any questions please contact me directly.
> YIS,
> Vincenti da Murano
> Royal Huntsman, Kingdom of Ansteorra
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