[Ansteorra-archery] [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman - Special Tourney Rules***

Doug Copley doug.copley at gmail.com
Mon Feb 13 12:16:55 PST 2012

Good Afternoon!

First I would like to state that this is not a change in the way Royal 
Huntsman tourneys will be run, it is only a change for the way this ONE 
will be run.

I believe that the Archery community has been growing and prospering 
throughout Ansteorra. One of the reasons that it has been growing has 
been the tourneys that have been run are always different. An archer 
never knows what targets and what ranges they will be shooting at until 
it is time to shoot.

This is another one of those times that things will be different. I 
spoke with a number of archers both those that were target archers only 
and those that could do both and spoke with other people to get their 
take on it. I also checked with the Kingdom Archery Marshal and Kingdom 
Earl Marshal to make sure what could and what could not be done, before 
I proposed it to TRHs.

I believe that going with TRM to 3 Kings, BAM, and Gulf War and taking 
the field with them and being in court at as many events and as often as 
possible helps to raise the awareness of Archery as a whole. I challenge 
all archers to continue to work and improve their skills and go to 
events and make the archery tourneys bigger, more exciting, more fun, 
and more of a draw. Then go to feast and court and let people know that 
you are archers and what you do. This is how you build.

I have seen it argued that Combat Archery is PART of the archery 
community and I have seen it argued that it is part of the armored 
combat community. At this point in time I have not seen any ruling come 
down saying one way or the other.

Traditionally the Crown decides when, where, and how they want the 
tourney run with input from the Royal Huntsman and then it is their duty 
to run the tourney to find their replacement. This is what has happened 
here also.

So, although we may disagree on whether or not this helps or hurts 
archery within the Kingdom and the SCA at least I am comforted in 
knowing that your wish and desire is only for it to grow and prosper.



On 2/13/2012 11:29 AM, Ld.blackmoon wrote:
> greetings
> for years , combat archers have been trying to lose the image of combat
> archery as a target range activity ( ikcac ), in order to find common
> ground on the combat field, and to push the image that combat archery
> was just another heavy weapons form.
> if combat archery is just another heavy weapons form, why does it take
> up more and more of the one event that is supposed to showcase the
> skills and attributes of the target archery community ?
> it seems that more and more often the crowns will have two
> representatives from the heavy weapons community and no representatives
> from the archery community.( especially with the new rule that all
> finalists must be COMBAT archery authorized , since no target only
> archer may win royal huntsman from this point forward , as long as the
> heavy weapons format is included. )
> will the combat archery representative for the crowns be the " war "
> representative for the heavy weapons community? as the kings champion is
> the " tourney " representative from the heavy weapons community ?
> if so, has target archery fallen so far in status in ansteorra that we
> no longer deserve a place behind the thrones ?
> I'm sorry if this offends anyone , but trying to add COMBAT archery ,
> into target archery does nothing to promote either community.
> and will do nothing to change the image of neither group being " manly "
> enough to go beat on people with sticks : (
> combat archers have the opportunity to " shine " at any and every war (
> except maybe Estrella ) that has combat archery and many war practices,
> as they are in front of both their heavy weapons peers, and the crowns.
> target archers for the most part are rarely seen by the crowns except at
> the royal huntsman tourney.
> if that is now being taken away ,where / when are the target archers
> supposed to shine for the crowns ??
> sorry , it is my duty and my obligation to try to improve the sca , as
> well as the missile communities , and to advise the crowns when / if I
> see something that will help or hinder either the sca , or the missile
> communities.
> and this I see as being detrimental to both communities as well as the sca.
> as always , just this old farts opinion.
> Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
> Arthur c.a.o.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Copley" <doug.copley at gmail.com>
> To: "Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra"
> <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org>; "Kingdom of Ansteorra - SCA,
> Inc." <ansteorra at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 10:33 PM
> Subject: [Ansteorra] Royal Huntsman - Special Tourney Rules***
>> Greetings unto the Greatest Archers of the known world!
>> TRHs will be holding a Tourney to find their Royal Huntsman and it
>> will probably be held in May, they do not have a date or event yet.
>> This tourney will have special requirements so they are being
>> announced in advance so that everyone has an opportunity to be prepared.
>> There will be both a target archery and a combat archery portion to
>> the tourney. From these rounds the top archers will advance to the
>> finals and will be asked by the Crown if they are ready and able to
>> compete for the title and if they win are they ready to fulfill those
>> duties and to serve the Crown. If they are not ready, or choose not to
>> continue, they will be allowed to withdraw at that time and a
>> replacement from the field will be called forward.
>> *** Here are the special rules ***
>> The final rounds will be Combat Archery Duels. All participants in the
>> final rounds must be Combat Archery authorized and have photo ID,
>> authorization card, and blue membership card (if they do not have
>> their blue membership card they will have to sign a waiver).
>> If you are not Combat Archery authorized you must be actively working
>> on becoming one and you must contact me in advance of the event to
>> receive a waiver for this.
>> All finalists will have to pass armor inspection prior to entering the
>> field. Those archers that are planning to compete for the title and
>> wish to get their armor inspection done prior to the start of the
>> tourney will be able to. All Combat Archery equipment will have to be
>> inspected prior to the start of the tourney.
>> As this is a tourney to select the Archery Champion for the Kingdom of
>> Ansteorra, no loaner gear of any type will be provided. Each
>> contestant will be responsible for providing their own equipment.
>> As soon as a tourney date and site are selected I will post a
>> notification to the list.
>> If you have any questions please contact me directly.
>> YIS,
>> Vincenti da Murano
>> Royal Huntsman, Kingdom of Ansteorra
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