[Ansteorra-archery] While were shaking things up ...

Wed Feb 15 22:12:13 PST 2012

greetings 

yep, one day its were just another heavy weapons type, the next its but were all just archers . which ever serves what they want at that moment : /

there are combat archers that have never set foot on a range, there are target archers have never set foot on a field of war , then there's the middle group, that dances back and forth .
and doesn't want to admit that you can't be in two places at once 
I don't see a problem with anyone learning and mastering either or both  weapons forms.
the problems seem to arise when people try to combine them. " yea the target range is a great big open place it would be perfect for an archers battle , they don't need it all the time" .
instead of  " there's an unused field at this upcoming event , why don't we ask the autocrat if we can set up an archers battle and see who comes to play ?? maybe even have loaner gear and authorizing marshals so new people can give it a try ""

I'm sorry , I'm tired,I hurt , and even at the best of times I'm not very good at communicating well.

so I'm going to say good night, sleep well and
Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
Arthur

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Tait 
  To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] While were shaking things up ...

    SNIP

    the problem seems to be that the combat archers want to straddle the fence , and have the best of both worlds, instead of deciding to follow one path or the other.

  Straddle a fence? I always thought people should do as many things as well as they can. Broaden horizons, etc.

  William - who must be an exceptional fence sitter. OW! :D

    but as you say each crown will make its own choices .

    the current rules are set.

    please go , have fun , whether that's watching , shooting ,marshaling  or just visiting with friends you haven't seen in a while .

     Be Safe , Be Happy, Have Fun .
    Arthur

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair 
      To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra 
      Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:05 PM
      Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] While were shaking things up ...

      If we take it as a given that both sides of the archery community, target and combat, are both of equal value, then it could be said that combat archery has been given the shaft (buh dum bum) for a number of years.  In most other RH tourneys, there was use of CA equipment, but the final round was target archery.  

      <restating Karl's argument from the other point of view>
      And if you cant play TA, you are replaced by someone who you may have just defeated.  So it really wouldnt matter how hard you practiced would it?  You could hit every single faceshot, get a kill shot on Uber Duke past his shield while he's running you down and were the greatest archer since Ghengis Kahn, you still WILL NOT WIN unless you can shoot target archery in the final rounds. 
      <end>

      This one time, the roles are reversed.  Personally, I love both aspects of archery so I don't care much which format is in the final rounds.  I do like the idea that the archery champion of our Kingdom can represent BOTH sides of the community.  That doesn't mean there is anything inherently wrong with people who do only target archery or only combat archery, but if we are going to have one person to champion all of archery, shouldn't it be someone who is at least familiar with both?  After all, this is not just a tourney to be won for personal glory, but a job with responsibilities to the Crown and the rest of the community (and yes those responsibilities change depending on the Crown).

      Just my thoughts,
      Donnchadh

      On 2/15/2012 12:16 PM, Chuck Kaun wrote: 
        You should maybe read those tourney rules again.  He didnt say final round, he said final round(s).  As in everything after the drop out.  And if you cant play CA, you are replaced by someone who you may have just defeated.  So it really wouldnt matter how hard you practiced would it?  You could hit every single bullseye, shoot the eye out of a swinging mouse and shoot twenty arrows in a speed round into the gold and were the greatest archer since Robin Hood, you still WILL NOT WIN unless you can shoot combat archery in the final rounds. 

        Doesnt sound the same anymore, 

        What I wanted is that we dont leave the target archers who dont wish to play CA out in the cold.  I want for all to see their time in the sun. 

        nuff said, 

        Karl

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