[Ansteorra-archery] Archery as a Peer area under A&S.

Patrick R tex_yankee2004 at yahoo.com
Mon Aug 12 18:27:22 PDT 2013


Since I could not say it any  better myself I will have to say it was worth at least six cents. 
One thing you mentioned rings very true and got my attention. All too often I have heard references to archers who just happen to be in the SCA and not people in the SCA who happened to be archers. Many times when I mention that we have several new archers the response may be that are they doing other SCA activities as well? I have yet to hear anyone question if someone who is new fighting is a fighter who happens to be in the SCA or the other way around. It distresses me when I see an archery go to an event and leave immediately when the archery is over, just as it upsets me to see a fighter do the same thing. I see very few archers just hanging out at the range all day and those who are on the range most of the day are there teaching new people and introducing them to archery. They are giving of their time just as someone who sits a two hour shift at gate or helping prepare a feast. 
I joined the SCA to have fun and meet some new friends. The interest in archery that started in the SCA is a side benefit.
Added my 1 cent.
Dante


From: Doug Copley <doug.copley at gmail.com>
To: Archery within the Kingdom of Ansteorra <ansteorra-archery at lists.ansteorra.org> 
Cc: ArcheryGuild-Period at yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-archery] Archery as a Peer area under A&S.



I do agree that we need to continually work on it. The job of recognition is not Peers, or TRMs or B&Bs, it is all of our jobs. If you see someone with an armguard that they tooled and made and a quiver, and boots, make a note of it. If you see someone with period arrows that they actually used horn to reinforce and they are competing with them, talk with them and make sure that they made them, and make a note of it. If you see someone with clothing, or bow, or crossbow, that they made, make a note of it. When you get home - spend 5 minutes and look them up on the OP (Order of Precedence) and see if they have an award for it or what awards they have, then spend 10 minutes writing it up. If they don't get it within 6 months - do it again! WE are the ones that are responsible to make sure they are recognized, go to the B&B, go to TRMs talk to your friends and have them write it up as well, if they want to. The more recognition the community gets the more
 attention they will get from the people in those positions. 

I have spent many hours studying this and talking with peers about it. One of the biggest things that I run in to again and again is that they say yes you can become a peer in archery - make stuff, document, enter, win, teach others how to make stuff - the problem is that everything that they talk about is something that can be done without ever picking up a bow or even going to the range. So there is a big education process to go through before we will get there in Ansteorra. 

Most importantly, do not do anything for the sake of an award, do it because it is what you want to do! There are people that chase awards all of the time and at the end they are tired and burnt out and have spent 10 years doing something that they did not want to do and in the end they get an award that will not even buy them a cup of coffee at Starbucks. Then they find out that it is not some magic wand and that they do not suddenly get some huge amount or awe and respect when they walk in to an area and they quit. There are many people that are not peers that I respect a great deal. Some of them may one day become peers and some may never become peers, but they have EARNED my respect for what they have done.

If you want to fight, shoot, display, or whatever do it. Be happy, have friends, play, laugh, joke. I have been asked by the Crown before when talking about someone, "Are they Archers who just happen to be in the SCA, or are they in the SCA and just happen to be Archers?" It may sound the same but there is a world of difference. If all you do is go to the range, hang out at the range, skip court, don't go to bardic, don't go to the parties, and only go to events with archery then how are you building the community? Go to Court, make sure people know that there was Archery this day and that it was great and it was fun. Help out when and where you can. Go to an event with NO archery, teach classes, sit gate, help with feast, do some entourage, 

I believe that we are making progress in Ansteorra and that one day there will be a peerage for Archery. But I did not join the SCA to become a peer (whatever that meant), I joined because of fun, friends, and archery:-)

Just my 4 cents!

Vincenti da Murano
Ansteorra



On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Frank Schalles <francisschalles at gmail.com> wrote:

Archers!
>
>As Archers we continue to hone our skills and our art of Archery. We
>should be recognized for our efforts. There have been some discussion
>on other lists, SCA wide, as to what we can do to educate the Peers in
>A&S that our art (Archery) is a valid area to be considered for
>elevation to peerage.
>
>We make period clothing, construct period bows and arrows, and we
>shoot period contests.
>How is this different than making a period dress, making a period box,
>or performing a
>period dance?
>
>The SCA ArcheryGuild-Period group is in the process of defining it's
>core mission statements, and
>it has been suggested that one of our goals should be to promote
>Archery to the kingdom Peerage communities as a valid A&S area for
>peerage award.
>
>As Keeper of the Royal Rounds - Ansteorra, and a promoter of period
>Archery, I have formulated a path that shall lead to the education of
>the A&S peerage that they should consider what we do, just as worthy
>as other A&S areas.
>
>How you ask? By entering every bow that I make, every set of arrows,
>every quiver, brace,
>glove, garb, and string into the A&S contests. You make these already,
>why not get credit for it?
>And I will concentrate on the kingdom published events for more
>Kingdom level exposure.
>
>The next set of arrows that you make, make them to win the shoot and
>to win the A&S contest.
>
>Yours In Service
>Ld. Francois de Lions,
>Keeper of the Royal Rounds, Ansteorra
>Central Region Archery Marshal, Ansteorra
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