[Ansteorra-chirurgeon] The value of additional knowledge

[Chris Baran]

Please include me as one of the participants in the after Gulf classes.

Thanks,

Sir Romanius


>From: "Richard Threlkeld" <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
>Reply-To: ansteorra-chirurgeon at ansteorra.org
>To: <ansteorra-chirurgeon at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: RE: [Ansteorra-chirurgeon] The value of additional knowledge
>Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:38:15 -0600
>
>For those in the DFW metroplex area, I have permission to
>have anyone attend the professional CPR course I am taking
>on March 2 (the day of King's Round Table), if all you
>need is CPR and don't mind taking the professional
>version (main difference is it covers two person CPR as well
>as one person). Otherwise, I am setting up a first aid/CPR
>course soon after Gulf War, but don't have a date set.
>
>The Red Cross used to have a course the second Saturday of
>each month at the Columbia Hospital on Matlock in South
>Arlington. You might call the hospital and ask their
>Community Relations (or some similar name) office.
>
>Or call the Red Cross. They often have courses with
>open seats.
>
>The price is usually about $50-60 for the Red Cross.
>I usually do somewhat better on my courses. The
>professional CPR is $30, I believe.
>
>Feel free to email or call me about these. I will need
>approximate 15 people to set up the post-Gulf War course.
>
>In service,
>Caelin on Andrede
>Kingdom Chirurgeon, Ansteorra
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ansteorra-chirurgeon-admin at ansteorra.org
> > [mailto:ansteorra-chirurgeon-admin at ansteorra.org]On Behalf Of Chris
> > Baran
> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 11:36 AM
> > To: ansteorra-chirurgeon at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-chirurgeon] The value of additional knowledge
> >
> >
> > You had sent out a letter / e-mail before speaking of first aid / cpr
> > classes that Chirurgeons in the DFW area could sign up for.  I
> > would like to
> > renew my certs and would like more information on this if you have any.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Sir Romanius
> >
> > >From: "Richard Threlkeld" <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
> > >Reply-To: ansteorra-chirurgeon at ansteorra.org
> > >To: <ansteorra-chirurgeon at ansteorra.org>
> > >CC: "Friar Galen of Ockham" <galen at chirurgeon.org>
> > >Subject: [Ansteorra-chirurgeon] The value of additional knowledge
> > >Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:50:03 -0600
> > >
> > >Chirurgeons of Ansteorra,
> > >
> > >I have been asked whether getting additional training beyond
> > that of Basic
> > >First Aid (BFA) is useful in the SCA or even harmful from a liability
> > >standpoint. Since this has come from several people while I am taking
>an
> > >EMT course, I wish to give my opinion. It is not necessarily the
> > opinion of
> > >the SCA or the Chirurgeonate, so take it as you will.
> > >
> > >I have been doing first aid in the Boy Scouts and in the SCA for over
>15
> > >years. My qualifications for this have always been Red Cross
> > first aid and
> > >CPR or equivalent combined with calmness under pressure, a dose of
>common
> > >sense, and a strong desire to help.
> > >
> > >In my mundane life, I have always felt a need a to know more than the
> > >minimum required to do any job. In the SCA we are sometimes
> > called upon to
> > >be the first responder to the myriad of health problems that a
>temporary
> > >city of 3,000-5,000 people can have (at Wars, for instance). I have
> > >sometimes felt I was not well enough prepared to handle these, though I
> > >have always been able to provide good care to those I treated.
> > >
> > >To answer these personal issues, I decided to get more training. After
> > >looking at first responder training, I decided to go for an EMT-B
>(Texas)
> > >certification and found an intensive course that took only 8
> > weeks of class
> > >and two weeks of "rotations". EMT-Bs can only do a few things we
> > cannot and
> > >then only when under protocols of a Medical Director, but the required
> > >knowledge of the body and its functioning is much greater than that of
>a
> > >BFA. Our course is 164 class hours plus a fair amount of homework. This
> > >yields a greater skill in patient assessment - especially in the trauma
> > >arena.
> > >
> > >It is here the Society benefits from those who have or get
> > training beyond
> > >our minimum requirement. I can now recognize many situations
> > where EMS must
> > >be called immediately. Based on my BFA training, I would not
> > have known the
> > >importance of some of the symptoms and may have delayed calling for
> > >transport until it became apparent the patient was in serious trouble.
> > >There are probably still situations where my training is inadequate,
>but
> > >I'm not going for a medical degree any time soon.
> > >
> > >We spent less than an hour in my BFA courses on bandaging and
> > splinting and
> > >did no practice. After the bandaids, these are some of the most common
> > >things we do in the SCA. My EMT course has spent a couple of days on
> > >learning when to use what technique and actually practicing them. This
> > >could translate into more comfort for my patients and perhaps a safer
> > >transport.
> > >
> > >Is any of this required? No. I provided a valuable service for years
> > >without this training and most of you do a wonderful job of keeping our
> > >friends and neighbors healthy and safe without it. Is it beneficial?
>Yes.
> > >If you know where the boundaries of the Chirurgeonate are, you can use
> > >enhanced patient assessment skills, basic trauma treatment skills, and
> > >packaging skills to do a better job in the Chirurgeonate.
> > >
> > >Caelin on Andrede
> > >Kingdom Chirurgeon, Ansteorra
> > >
> > >P.S. I have had several people ask me about the intensive EMT program.
>It
> > >was recommended to me by our Deputy Kingdom Chirurgeon, Robert
>Carmichael
> > >(Croaker). He took it and worked as an EMT for several years. I have
>been
> > >impressed by the instructors. Neither the Chirurgeonate nor the SCA
> > >recommends any particular training (beyond a Red Cross
> > equivalent BFA/CPR)
> > >or school and I do not recommend this school as Kingdom Chirurgeon, but
> > >personally, if you are in the Dallas/Fort Worth area and want
> > EMT training,
> > >you might want to check them out. Contact either myself or Croaker for
> > >info. Neither of us has any financial or personal relationships with
>the
> > >school or its instructors and we will not benefit directly or
> > indirectly if
> > >you choose to attend this school.
> > >
> > >
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