[Ansteorra-marshals] Armored Marshal Test

[Ken Theriot]

About the plastic rigidity question - the manual doesn’t specify a specific thickness ("High-impact-resistant plastics such as ABS or polyethylene of sufficient thickness to give similar rigidity to those listed above”). And that makes sense because not all thermoplastics used for armor are the same. EGG armor, for instance, uses Kydex, a brand name for an alloy of acrylic and PVC. but most people incorrectly use the terms “ABS” and “Kydex” interchangeably. So I think we need some clarification on how we go about defining whether plastic armor is legal or not based solely on its thickness. Because not all plastic armor is “ABS.”

Kenneth

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On July 19, 2016 at 12:49:55 PM, Earl Marshal (kingdom at marshal.ansteorra.org) wrote:

On the shield question, it doesn't matter if it's strapped or center  
gripped, only that the hand is 4" from the edge.  

The padding of camail or aventail was outside of the scope of what I was  
asking about. Perhaps an additional question?  

Regarding ABS rigidity, some quick research into material specifications on  
ABS and steel show that in general ABS is 1/7" as strong (yield) as cold  
rolled steel. As such, I don't think that a material 2.5x as thick as the  
minimum steel would be considered rigid as well.  

I'm not sure when suprasternal notch was removed.  

JP  

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Cameron Lewis <cameronlewisok at gmail.com>  
wrote:  

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> > When I took the test it didn't let me choose more than one answer on  
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> Which question was that asking about?  
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> 7) A shield can be considered back of the hand protection in which of the  
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> > Question 13 is true 3/16 bars and when I marked true it said the  
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> > Question 17 states "parts of the neck" so that is false...imo ... when  
> > I comes in contact with 3 parts it must be padded but not the other  
> > parts...question is vague  
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> > It's a question direct from society rules:  
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> Section VI.D  
> The neck, including the larynx, cervical vertebrae, and first thoracic  
> vertebra must be covered by one or a combination of the following and must  
> stay covered during typical combat situations, including turning the head,  
> lifting the chin, etc.  
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> You have to pad a camail or aventail if it comes in contact with the front  
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> > I missed question 19 in that I have never seen a single handed weapon  
> > with cutting or smashing heads on both ends ...kinda weird but I  
> > didn't check that one... and the rattan sword without a handguard...i  
> > was thinking that you would wear a gauntlet but then my dinosaur brain  
> > kicked in and there was a rule about SOME kind of hand guard or tsuba  
> > must be on a single handed weapon...  
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> > Looks like I missed 23 also thinking that 1/8 abs was rigid...I am  
> > guessing It is considered resilient then and needs foam behind it?  
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> > 30 I thought we could have split rattan weapons here? Also the  
> > question might be changed to cutting/slashing weapons instead of two  
> > handed as a fiberglass spear is a two handed weapon and E would not  
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> So you are correct about the split rattan, and I've updated it. Mea  
> aculpa.  
> As far as the fiberglass spear.... yes, you are correct, and that was my  
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> > 33 missed the Suprasternal notch...i though we had to cover that  
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> > We used to in Ansteorra, which is why I made sure to include it, to  
> > make  
> sure everyone knows that you don't have to.  
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> Is this new from this version or have I been overarmored for too long?  
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> > My apologies to all. I included the wrong link.  
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> > https://www.proprofs.com/quiz-school/story.php?title=field-and-inspect  
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