[Ansteorra-missile] Need Authorizing Marshals

John Moore iaenmor at swbell.net
Fri Sep 9 21:42:43 PDT 2005


I know just messing with you.  
John Moore
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike 
  To: Missile combat in Ansteorra 
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] Need Authorizing Marshals


  Thanks, that confirms my thoughts on the issue. Just that one of the requirements that Pug put out to be Full Contact Combat Archer was to have two Archer's Gauntlets on both hands. I knew about rules where either full or Archer's gauntlets could be wore, which was left up to the CA.

  I do NOT wave with my full gauntlet, if I do then it is with the bow as well, I usually wave with my Archer's Gauntlet - you know the one with the next arrow to be shot at some bore fighter and/or another combat archer. :)

  Michael Kettering

  John Moore wrote: 
    Hi Mike, to clarify.  Per Society rules adopted by Ansteorra.  A archer may wear a full gauntlet with a archers gauntlet with a longbow.  They may also wear two archers gauntlets if they choose to.  Crossbows can wear either set.  Warning expect to be questioned at least once while having your armour inspected.  Not all marshals are aware of this.  I know I was questioned at GW this year by a Meridian knight and was lucky that Duke Patrick Michael was there to let him know of the change.  

    So keep wearing your full gauntlet that way I can see you wave when you shoot me.  

    Iaen Mor
    John Moore
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Mike 
      To: Missile combat in Ansteorra 
      Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:20 PM
      Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] Need Authorizing Marshals


      Hi,

      I am a full contact CA and I wear a Archer's Gauntlet on my string hand a full Gauntlet on my bow hand. I shoot a 30 lb., recurve.

      I question the statement or requirement below:
      b. General discussion regarding on-field specifics that the fighter
      should know with regards to combat archery
      i. Archer Gauntlets on both hands

      When did the requirement to wear Archer's Gauntlets on both hands go into effect?

      The last time, I read CA rules, a person could wear either a full gauntlet and a Archer's Gauntlet or wear both Archer's Gauntlets on both hands.

      Michael Kettering
      Combat Archer for the Condottieri


      Pug Bainter wrote: 
What level of experience are you looking for someone to be in the regional office Pug??   
      
I expect them to be capable of being an authorizing marshal for at least
target or combat archery and working towards the other. If a person does
not take the incentive (which may require travel) to address these issues,
I am not going to give them the position.
    

Btw, here as outline of what I expect for the different types of 
combatants and marshals. Maybe this will help. I have not come
up with a formal test such as is required to be a chivalric authorizing
marshal *yet*.

The sad thing is having to put in the requirment regarding reporting,
but it is something that is a requirement and is difficult to get
compliance with.

Archery Authorization Expectations

1. Full Contact Combat Archer
   a. Already authorized as a chivalric or rapier fighter
      i. You can assume they know the normal rules of engagement, behavior
         on the field, etc
   b. General discussion regarding on-field specifics that the fighter
      should know with regards to combat archery
      i. Archer Gauntlets on both hands
      ii. Minimum 15' firing distance
      iii. Understand safety lines
      iv. Understand invalid targets
         1. Marshals
         2. By-standers
      v. Do not strike or block with the bow/crossbow
      vi. Gleaning rules
   c. General discussion regarding their equipment
      i. Basic understanding of bow/crossbow poundage and safety factors
         1. Bow
            a. Measured at 28" draw
            b. Maximum 30 pounds
         2. Crossbow
            a. Computed in Inch Pounds (IP)
            b. Draw poundage multiplied by measured draw
            c. Maximum 600 IP
               i. Recommend maximum 75 pound draw due to Gulf War
         3. Basic check for string, limb and firing defects
      ii. Basic understanding of how their specific ammo is made
         1. If they plan on using more than one style they should understand
	   each of them
         2. No new wood ammo
   d. Field test
      i. Can they safely draw and fire their bow/crossbow while in full armor
      ii. Can they properly aim their bow/crossbow at a valid target
      iii. Can they do the above while on the move
      iv. Speed nor complete accuracy are critical, but safety is

2. Non-Contact Combat Archer
   a. With the assistance of the appropriate type of marshal do the following:
      i. Have their armor kit checked
      ii. Understand the rules of engagement
      iii. Understand safety of the field
      iv. Receive and understand blows from light through hard
         1. While non-contact they still need to understand being hit since
	   it can happen
   b. Understand specifics of non-contact CA
      i. Marking of helm
      ii. Should yield during a rush/press
      iii. Dead when enemy within 10'
   c. All items in 1.b through 1.d

3. Combat Archery Marshal
   a. Must understand all items of a Combat Archer
   b. Must understand inspection of most, if not all, ammo used in Ansteorra
   c. Must be able to inspect bow/crossbow for safety and compliance
   d. Must understand safety of the field
   e. Must know when to call on someone with more knowledge
   f. Must know how to report and do it
   g. Must stand behind their decisions for passing equipment or fighter
      for the field
      i. Passing equipment/fighter that is found to be unacceptable can
         result in, at minimum, revocation of marshal privileges
   h. Must keep and maintain in good order the tools required to inspect
      combat archery equipment & marshal combat archery activities upon
      the field

4. Target Archery Marshal
   a. Must understand inspection of ammo
   b. Must be able to inspect bow for safety
   c. Must understand safety of the range
   d. Must know when to call on someone with more knowledge
   e. Must know how to report and do it
   f. Must stand behind their decisions for passing equipment or archer
      for the range
      i. Passing equipment/archer that is found to be unacceptable can
         result, at minimum, in revocation of marshal privileges
   g. Must keep and maintain in good order the tools required to inspect
      target archery equipment & marshal target archery activities

5. Authorizing Combat Archery Marshal
   a. Must know all items of a Combat Archery Marshal
   b. Must know all items of a Combat Archer
   c. Must be the person who is more knowledgeable for people to go to
   d. Must know how to report and do it
   e. Must stand behind their decisions for every person they authorize
      i. Authorizing someone who is found to be unacceptable can result,
         at minimum, in revocation of authorization privileges

6. Authorizing Target Archery Marshal
   a. Must know all items of a Target Archery Marshal
   b. Must be the person who is more knowledgeable for people to go to
   c. Must know how to report and do it
   d. Must stand behind their decisions for every person they authorize
      i. Authorizing someone who is found to be unacceptable can result,
         at minimum, in revocation of authorization privileges

7. Local Archery Marshal
   a. Must be authorized in at least one form of Archery Marshal
   b. Must know how to contact appropriate styles of Archery Marshals for
      events or authorizations

Ciao,

  


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