[Ansteorra-missile] Need Authorizing Marshals
Mike
meggiddo at netzero.net
Fri Sep 9 21:54:27 PDT 2005
Same here.
Mike
John Moore wrote:
> I know just messing with you.
> John Moore
>
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> From: Mike <mailto:meggiddo at netzero.net>
> To: Missile combat in Ansteorra
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> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:41 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] Need Authorizing Marshals
>
> Thanks, that confirms my thoughts on the issue. Just that one of
> the requirements that Pug put out to be Full Contact Combat Archer
> was to have two Archer's Gauntlets on both hands. I knew about
> rules where either full or Archer's gauntlets could be wore, which
> was left up to the CA.
>
> I do NOT wave with my full gauntlet, if I do then it is with the
> bow as well, I usually wave with my Archer's Gauntlet - you know
> the one with the next arrow to be shot at some bore fighter and/or
> another combat archer. :)
>
> Michael Kettering
>
> John Moore wrote:
>
>> Hi Mike, to clarify. Per Society rules adopted by Ansteorra. A
>> archer may wear a full gauntlet with a archers gauntlet with a
>> longbow. They may also wear two archers gauntlets if they choose
>> to. Crossbows can wear either set. Warning expect to be
>> questioned at least once while having your armour inspected. Not
>> all marshals are aware of this. I know I was questioned at GW
>> this year by a Meridian knight and was lucky that Duke Patrick
>> Michael was there to let him know of the change.
>>
>> So keep wearing your full gauntlet that way I can see you wave
>> when you shoot me.
>>
>> Iaen Mor
>> John Moore
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Mike <mailto:meggiddo at netzero.net>
>> To: Missile combat in Ansteorra
>> <mailto:ansteorra-missile at ansteorra.org>
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 11:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] Need Authorizing Marshals
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am a full contact CA and I wear a Archer's Gauntlet on my
>> string hand a full Gauntlet on my bow hand. I shoot a 30 lb.,
>> recurve.
>>
>> I question the statement or requirement below:
>> b. General discussion regarding on-field specifics that the
>> fighter
>> should know with regards to combat archery
>> i. Archer Gauntlets on both hands
>>
>> When did the requirement to wear Archer's Gauntlets on both
>> hands go into effect?
>>
>> The last time, I read CA rules, a person could wear either a
>> full gauntlet and a Archer's Gauntlet or wear both Archer's
>> Gauntlets on both hands.
>>
>> Michael Kettering
>> Combat Archer for the Condottieri
>>
>>
>> Pug Bainter wrote:
>>
>>>>>What level of experience are you looking for someone to be in the regional office Pug??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>I expect them to be capable of being an authorizing marshal for at least
>>>>target or combat archery and working towards the other. If a person does
>>>>not take the incentive (which may require travel) to address these issues,
>>>>I am not going to give them the position.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Btw, here as outline of what I expect for the different types of
>>>combatants and marshals. Maybe this will help. I have not come
>>>up with a formal test such as is required to be a chivalric authorizing
>>>marshal *yet*.
>>>
>>>The sad thing is having to put in the requirment regarding reporting,
>>>but it is something that is a requirement and is difficult to get
>>>compliance with.
>>>
>>>Archery Authorization Expectations
>>>
>>>1. Full Contact Combat Archer
>>> a. Already authorized as a chivalric or rapier fighter
>>> i. You can assume they know the normal rules of engagement, behavior
>>> on the field, etc
>>> b. General discussion regarding on-field specifics that the fighter
>>> should know with regards to combat archery
>>> i. Archer Gauntlets on both hands
>>> ii. Minimum 15' firing distance
>>> iii. Understand safety lines
>>> iv. Understand invalid targets
>>> 1. Marshals
>>> 2. By-standers
>>> v. Do not strike or block with the bow/crossbow
>>> vi. Gleaning rules
>>> c. General discussion regarding their equipment
>>> i. Basic understanding of bow/crossbow poundage and safety factors
>>> 1. Bow
>>> a. Measured at 28" draw
>>> b. Maximum 30 pounds
>>> 2. Crossbow
>>> a. Computed in Inch Pounds (IP)
>>> b. Draw poundage multiplied by measured draw
>>> c. Maximum 600 IP
>>> i. Recommend maximum 75 pound draw due to Gulf War
>>> 3. Basic check for string, limb and firing defects
>>> ii. Basic understanding of how their specific ammo is made
>>> 1. If they plan on using more than one style they should understand
>>> each of them
>>> 2. No new wood ammo
>>> d. Field test
>>> i. Can they safely draw and fire their bow/crossbow while in full armor
>>> ii. Can they properly aim their bow/crossbow at a valid target
>>> iii. Can they do the above while on the move
>>> iv. Speed nor complete accuracy are critical, but safety is
>>>
>>>2. Non-Contact Combat Archer
>>> a. With the assistance of the appropriate type of marshal do the following:
>>> i. Have their armor kit checked
>>> ii. Understand the rules of engagement
>>> iii. Understand safety of the field
>>> iv. Receive and understand blows from light through hard
>>> 1. While non-contact they still need to understand being hit since
>>> it can happen
>>> b. Understand specifics of non-contact CA
>>> i. Marking of helm
>>> ii. Should yield during a rush/press
>>> iii. Dead when enemy within 10'
>>> c. All items in 1.b through 1.d
>>>
>>>3. Combat Archery Marshal
>>> a. Must understand all items of a Combat Archer
>>> b. Must understand inspection of most, if not all, ammo used in Ansteorra
>>> c. Must be able to inspect bow/crossbow for safety and compliance
>>> d. Must understand safety of the field
>>> e. Must know when to call on someone with more knowledge
>>> f. Must know how to report and do it
>>> g. Must stand behind their decisions for passing equipment or fighter
>>> for the field
>>> i. Passing equipment/fighter that is found to be unacceptable can
>>> result in, at minimum, revocation of marshal privileges
>>> h. Must keep and maintain in good order the tools required to inspect
>>> combat archery equipment & marshal combat archery activities upon
>>> the field
>>>
>>>4. Target Archery Marshal
>>> a. Must understand inspection of ammo
>>> b. Must be able to inspect bow for safety
>>> c. Must understand safety of the range
>>> d. Must know when to call on someone with more knowledge
>>> e. Must know how to report and do it
>>> f. Must stand behind their decisions for passing equipment or archer
>>> for the range
>>> i. Passing equipment/archer that is found to be unacceptable can
>>> result, at minimum, in revocation of marshal privileges
>>> g. Must keep and maintain in good order the tools required to inspect
>>> target archery equipment & marshal target archery activities
>>>
>>>5. Authorizing Combat Archery Marshal
>>> a. Must know all items of a Combat Archery Marshal
>>> b. Must know all items of a Combat Archer
>>> c. Must be the person who is more knowledgeable for people to go to
>>> d. Must know how to report and do it
>>> e. Must stand behind their decisions for every person they authorize
>>> i. Authorizing someone who is found to be unacceptable can result,
>>> at minimum, in revocation of authorization privileges
>>>
>>>6. Authorizing Target Archery Marshal
>>> a. Must know all items of a Target Archery Marshal
>>> b. Must be the person who is more knowledgeable for people to go to
>>> c. Must know how to report and do it
>>> d. Must stand behind their decisions for every person they authorize
>>> i. Authorizing someone who is found to be unacceptable can result,
>>> at minimum, in revocation of authorization privileges
>>>
>>>7. Local Archery Marshal
>>> a. Must be authorized in at least one form of Archery Marshal
>>> b. Must know how to contact appropriate styles of Archery Marshals for
>>> events or authorizations
>>>
>>>Ciao,
>>>
>>>
>>>
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