[Ansteorra-missile] Relaying a Question for a Heavy Fighter

[Pug Bainter]

What happens after what you are suggesting is that we have a Marshal's court
and in all likelihood I pull their authorization either temp or perm depending
on the level of the infraction.

A quick exchange between fighters of a glaive and fiberglass spear at the
sally port is much different than someone walking off the field to exchange
bow & quiver for an unauthorized weapon. One is incidental and one is
intentional.

All fighters are honorable until proven otherwise. We can not assume this and
be able to call people on the field because they are using an 'illegal' weapon
for them. Btw, this was brought to the Gulf Wars marshals because no Antir
marshal was going to be present and they wanted us to enforce their rules
against their archers. Of course we refused this insane request. Imagine
trying to have enough markings to be a MidRealm fighter where you have to not
only authorize with sword, single handled mass weapon, etc, but also different
combinations with a thrusting tip, shield, and two-handed. They are getting
better and eliminating some of the styles, but there are still something like
20 different authorizations that fall within our 'armored combat' auth.

Btw, with regards to the missile section, I've asked for the DRAFT changes to
be put up. They have all the changes that have been passed into law since the
one on the website was made. It also has better 'verbage' to make the rules
more clear. Unfortunately because of different delays it hasn't been signed
into law and I will be discussing the future of this or another document
because of updates from Society with the Earl Marshal this weekend.

Ciao,
Pug

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ansteorra-missile-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org [mailto:ansteorra-
> missile-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 9:23 AM
> To: Missile combat in Ansteorra
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-missile] Relaying a Question for a Heavy Fighter
> 
> Yes, I agree with you that if I see someone with a fiberglass spear or a
> combat bow and quiver, then I have been assuming that they were
> authorized to be on the field with that type of weapon.
> 
> The main point of Hosey's question was in regard to those individuals
> who are on the field attempting to get to authorized. In other words,
> they do NOT have any type of authorization at this point.
> 
> The scenario(s) that Hosey has witnessed and so I have over time,
> perhaps you as well. In the heat of the battle, shall we say, an
> authorized fighter will exchange their weapon with something that they
> have never picked up before and used. When there was an authorization
> for unpadded glaives - someone who was authorized as a heavy fighter,
> plus fiberglass spear but not unpadded glaive - was asked to swapped
> weapons with someone who had more experienced on the battlefield than
> they did. So, the fiberglass spear and the unpadded glaive was swapped
> which lead to an injury. All the reports were done and discussions with
> the individuals were held.
> 
> Back to these individuals who are not authorized being on the field and
> they have run out of arrows and there is another type of weapon on the
> sidelines. Their "blood is up", so to say, they would like to continue
> to take part in the battle and pick up that weapon...
> 
> Which leads back to the question being asked by Hosey.
> 
> There is no visible means to separate out those people who are
> authorized and those who attempting to become authorized during that
> battle, for matter, for that day. So the check that you are citing would
> not be there.
> 
> Yes, everyone who takes the field are on their Honour, which is what our
> whole game that we all play is based upon. Everyone always assume that
> everyone else is playing with the same thoughts. Yet, this activity is a
> learned activity with various levels of play. It does not help for
> Combat Archers that their section of the Marshal's Handbook is 7 years
> out of date. And the information is scatter in various other locations
> including several web sites, Black Stars, and emails.
> 
> Ld Michael Kettering
> 
> 
> 
> John Moore wrote:
> 
> >Good question, the answer is the same as anyone on field using a weapon.
> >Their word of honour.  When I see or fight someone I have no idea what
> >authorizations they have.  So I have to assume by the fiberglass spear in
> >their hand that they are authorized to use it and know what the are doing
> >with it on the field.  It is the job of the marshal doing inspections to
> >check a fighters green card not mine or anyone else on the field.
> >
> >John Moore
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Mike" <meggiddo at netzero.net>
> >To: "Missile combat in Ansteorra" <ansteorra-missile at lists.ansteorra.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:41 PM
> >Subject: [Ansteorra-missile] Relaying a Question for a Heavy Fighter
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Heilsa,
> >>
> >>As the Subject line states, relaying a question from a heavy fighter,
> >>that does not have email either at home nor place of business.
> >>
> >>The question was asked at Steppes regular fighter practice while waiting
> >>for the various waves of rain to ease up for those of us who came out to
> >>practice prior to going to Gothic Wars this coming weekend. Reference to
> >>earlier emails concerning Missile Weapons or Combat authorization
> >>process as describe in HL Eadric's email was under discussion.
> >>
> >>The question:
> >>
> >>"If an archer is not required to be have a combat authorization to take
> >>the field, will there be a way of knowing which ones are not combat
> >>authorized, so they cannot use weapons other than bows?"
> >>
> >>The heavy fighter is Hosey or Lord CinaedOHosey.
> >>
> >>
> >>Ld Michael Kettering
> >>
> >>
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