[Ansteorra-missile] Clear the bow!

[Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair]

Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
> Eadric Anstapa wrote:
>   
>> Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> I got a chance to drop my armor and go play with the rapier guys at BAM 
>>> and had a blast.  Why could we not use society standard for both armored 
>>> and rapier?  I'm really not into pain that much, but I haven't been able 
>>> to tell a difference between a 2 layer and 3 layer tip.  Baldar's are 
>>> another matter.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>> What's a 2 layer tip?  What's a 3 layer tip?
>>
>> Even if you can't tell a difference in the impact of  a 1/2" padded and 
>> a 1" padded UHMW cored blunt there is a difference 
>>
>> When is the last time you were shot with a 1/2" padded blunt in the side 
>> of the head or throat while wearing minimal rapier armor?   I am going 
>> to bet never since I know you play by the rules.
>>
>> Ask the folks who have been around a while, they can tell you what a 
>> 1/2" padded blunt on fiberglass can do to a rapier mask?  Gilli, 
>> Plachoya are ya'll out there?   We know that 1" padded blunts greatly 
>> reduce the damage done to the masks.
>>
>> I few years ago I  and some others did some clay impact tests modeled on 
>> the standard tests used to evaluate the backface signature for 
>> bulletproof vests.  Basically the idea is you take some Roma Plastalina 
>> oil based modeling clay (which is determined to be about the same 
>> density as flesh) and shoot it your projectile and measure how deep the 
>> impact crater is.  Baldar blunts leave an impressive dent (the egg 
>> baldars were scary as hell) properly padded UHMW is much more friendly 
>> and there was a significant difference in 1/2" and 1" padded blunts.   
>> How bad something hurts or what it feels like is often just a temporary 
>> thing with your surface sensory nerves.  How bad something injures you 
>> and how long it takes to heal is directly related to how deep the trauma 
>> is inflicted on the body.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -EA   
>>     
> I just went out and grabbed some spare blue foam, and did some 
> measuring.  What I'm calling a 2 layer and 3 layer tip is based on the 
> number of layers of standard blue foam on the tip.  I just measured it, 
> and 2 layers is 7/8"  just barely not enough to pass at 1", especially 
> after you've shot something with it once.  To pass 1" I have to use 3 
> layers of foam which is 1 3/8".  So no, I've never been hit with an 
> actual 1/2" blunt.  Were the experiments you did with actual 1/2" and 1" 
> of padding?  What were you using for padding?  Are we comparing apples 
> and oranges?  I can see how an actual 1/2" padded blunt (just over 1 
> layer of foam) would be considerably different.
>
> I actually find this conversation very interesting and enlightening.
>
> Donnchadh
>   
Also curious, did you happen to try your experiment with a 3/4" blunt 
(Gulf Wars standard)?  If so, what were the results?  Might it be a good 
idea to standardize on that thickness?

Thanks,
Donnchadh