[Ansteorra-missile] Clear the bow!

[Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair]

Eadric Anstapa wrote:
> Donnchadh Beag mac Griogair wrote:
>   
>> I got a chance to drop my armor and go play with the rapier guys at BAM 
>> and had a blast.  Why could we not use society standard for both armored 
>> and rapier?  I'm really not into pain that much, but I haven't been able 
>> to tell a difference between a 2 layer and 3 layer tip.  Baldar's are 
>> another matter.
>>   
>>     
> What's a 2 layer tip?  What's a 3 layer tip?
>
> Even if you can't tell a difference in the impact of  a 1/2" padded and 
> a 1" padded UHMW cored blunt there is a difference 
>
> When is the last time you were shot with a 1/2" padded blunt in the side 
> of the head or throat while wearing minimal rapier armor?   I am going 
> to bet never since I know you play by the rules.
>
> Ask the folks who have been around a while, they can tell you what a 
> 1/2" padded blunt on fiberglass can do to a rapier mask?  Gilli, 
> Plachoya are ya'll out there?   We know that 1" padded blunts greatly 
> reduce the damage done to the masks.
>
> I few years ago I  and some others did some clay impact tests modeled on 
> the standard tests used to evaluate the backface signature for 
> bulletproof vests.  Basically the idea is you take some Roma Plastalina 
> oil based modeling clay (which is determined to be about the same 
> density as flesh) and shoot it your projectile and measure how deep the 
> impact crater is.  Baldar blunts leave an impressive dent (the egg 
> baldars were scary as hell) properly padded UHMW is much more friendly 
> and there was a significant difference in 1/2" and 1" padded blunts.   
> How bad something hurts or what it feels like is often just a temporary 
> thing with your surface sensory nerves.  How bad something injures you 
> and how long it takes to heal is directly related to how deep the trauma 
> is inflicted on the body.
>
> Regards,
>
> -EA   
I just went out and grabbed some spare blue foam, and did some 
measuring.  What I'm calling a 2 layer and 3 layer tip is based on the 
number of layers of standard blue foam on the tip.  I just measured it, 
and 2 layers is 7/8"  just barely not enough to pass at 1", especially 
after you've shot something with it once.  To pass 1" I have to use 3 
layers of foam which is 1 3/8".  So no, I've never been hit with an 
actual 1/2" blunt.  Were the experiments you did with actual 1/2" and 1" 
of padding?  What were you using for padding?  Are we comparing apples 
and oranges?  I can see how an actual 1/2" padded blunt (just over 1 
layer of foam) would be considerably different.

I actually find this conversation very interesting and enlightening.

Donnchadh