ARN - Tournament Styles - HR only

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Thu Feb 24 13:54:42 PST 2000


Answered privately 

Pieter


In a message dated 2/24/00 12:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, 
amberd at flash.net writes:

<< >' Comments are from Peiter
 
 > I said it was ideas that we were kicking around... but if you would like 
to 
 > know why we were tinking of it. We just thought that we ansteorrans can do 
 > alot more period style or at the least mort period then what we do with a 
 > fast epee style with a heavy rapier.
 
 Fast epee verses heavy rapier - It was my understanding that depending on 
the 
 'rig' an epee can be as heavy as a schlager. So a minimum weight would 
negate 
 that argument.  Which leaves the 'a schlager "looks" more period' defense.
 
 > One thing you have to understand 
 > Amerinda is that not every tourney or event is made with everyone in mind. 
 
 Really?  ;-) I am rather shocked that you would think this needs to be 
 explained to me. I must have miss lead you in some way.  I agree with your 
 statement but also feel that 'unnecessary' limitations should not be placed 
on 
 an event.
 
 > Look at Lyonesse, If a heavy fighter that is a the hot stick in almost 
every 
 > tourney comes he will beat the snot out of many. will he win? probably 
not. 
 
 That's fine. Make it a judged tourney. That was not the issue. The issue is 
 should we start having heavy only tournaments which would exclude a portion 
of 
 the rapier community who either don't own a heavy rapier yet or don't want 
to. 
 I have heard several fighters say that fighting HR messes up their LR and 
vise 
 versa.  There are other reasons that fighters don't have HR.  Why not leave 
it 
 fighters choice? 
 
 > That tourney is for show and grace and honor. those who just come to fight 
 > with no concept of the game will probably be really board with the whole 
 > tourney. 
 
 "Show, grace, and honor" - I think I can do that with an epee in my hand.  
 Putting a HR in someone’s hand is not going to make them showier, 
gracefuller 
 nor more honorable. 
 
 >There are some (few) people in this 
 > kingdom that like only heavy rapier and dread picking up the epee because 
 > they are only tring to learn the "true art". So I hope this answer is 
better 
 > then if you don't like it don't fight.   It's the best I can do right 
 now.
  
 Then make it fighters choice. If needed you could set up the list so that 
those 
 who have stated that they wish to fight HR only are only paired with those 
who 
 can or will fight HR. If the tournament comes down to only one person who 
only 
 wants to fight HR and some who only want/can fight epee then have some other 
 means to continue the fighting (chess) or make the default LR.  The only 
time 
 you need to limit something to one style or the other for the tournament is 
for 
 melees.
 
 
 Question:  "True art?"  Are you also planning on insisting on period fabric 
and 
 styles of dress, period shoes, helms instead of masks, and period speech?  
The 
 weapons we use and the way our arms move as a result should only be a part 
of 
 what makes a more period style, it should not be considered the most 
important 
 part.  
 
 Amerinda
 (I like the idea of a High persona Rapier event)
 
  >>
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