ARN - Tournament Styles - HR only

[Chris Backus]

Dear Amerinda,

I really feel you're getting overly excited about this.  Having a heavy
rapier only tournament just enables people who prefer them to enjoy
themselves with their favorite weapons.  It does not mean you can't follow
it with a light rapier only tournament, or a mixed tournament.  I somewhat
question your prejudice because of your counterproposal to make it open to
all weapons, but default to light rapier.  Avoiding something like the light
rapier default might be one reason to have HR only tournaments.

Please don't take offense, I'll play with anything until I can't walk on
Sunday : )

Hawkins

----- Original Message -----
From: <amberd at flash.net>
To: <ansteorra-rapier at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2000 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: ARN - Tournament Styles - HR only


> '>' Comments are from Peiter
>
> > I said it was ideas that we were kicking around... but if you would like
to
> > know why we were tinking of it. We just thought that we ansteorrans can
do
> > alot more period style or at the least mort period then what we do with
a
> > fast epee style with a heavy rapier.
>
> Fast epee verses heavy rapier - It was my understanding that depending on
the
> 'rig' an epee can be as heavy as a schlager. So a minimum weight would
negate
> that argument.  Which leaves the 'a schlager "looks" more period' defense.
>
> > One thing you have to understand
> > Amerinda is that not every tourney or event is made with everyone in
mind.
>
> Really?  ;-) I am rather shocked that you would think this needs to be
> explained to me. I must have miss lead you in some way.  I agree with your
> statement but also feel that 'unnecessary' limitations should not be
placed on
> an event.
>
> > Look at Lyonesse, If a heavy fighter that is a the hot stick in almost
every
> > tourney comes he will beat the snot out of many. will he win? probably
not.
>
> That's fine. Make it a judged tourney. That was not the issue. The issue
is
> should we start having heavy only tournaments which would exclude a
portion of
> the rapier community who either don't own a heavy rapier yet or don't want
to.
> I have heard several fighters say that fighting HR messes up their LR and
vise
> versa.  There are other reasons that fighters don't have HR.  Why not
leave it
> fighters choice?
>
> > That tourney is for show and grace and honor. those who just come to
fight
> > with no concept of the game will probably be really board with the whole
> > tourney.
>
> "Show, grace, and honor" - I think I can do that with an epee in my hand.
> Putting a HR in someone's hand is not going to make them showier,
gracefuller
> nor more honorable.
>
> >There are some (few) people in this
> > kingdom that like only heavy rapier and dread picking up the epee
because
> > they are only tring to learn the "true art". So I hope this answer is
better
> > then if you don't like it don't fight. It's the best I can do right
> now.
>
> Then make it fighters choice. If needed you could set up the list so that
those
> who have stated that they wish to fight HR only are only paired with those
who
> can or will fight HR. If the tournament comes down to only one person who
only
> wants to fight HR and some who only want/can fight epee then have some
other
> means to continue the fighting (chess) or make the default LR.  The only
time
> you need to limit something to one style or the other for the tournament
is for
> melees.
>
>
> Question:  "True art?"  Are you also planning on insisting on period
fabric and
> styles of dress, period shoes, helms instead of masks, and period speech?
The
> weapons we use and the way our arms move as a result should only be a part
of
> what makes a more period style, it should not be considered the most
important
> part.
>
> Amerinda
> (I like the idea of a High persona Rapier event)


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