[Ansteorra-rapier] gauntlets and rapier

[Northern Cadet]

Here's my interpretation of the information taken directly from the rules.

PART 1.  For heavy rapier and cut and thrust, mail Gauntlets shall be
allowed as a parrying device,
provided they are constructed in a reasonably similar fashion to that of
historical
examples. (i.e. chain mail and a leather glove, all chain mail, etc.) A
fighter will not be
allowed to cover a glove with duct tape and call it a mail gauntlet, or
anything likened to
such action. 

(Gassion) So butchers gloves would be a reasonable example of historic mail
gauntlets.

PART 2.  When wearing a mail gauntlet, the hand will be protected from cuts
wherever
it is covered by steel.

(Gassion)  I see no mention of blade grasping or failure of a mail gauntlet
to provide protection during those techniques.  In fact, I interpret that a
mail gauntlet is of little use unless it is used for blade grabbing or
during simple parrying techniques, which you can still perform with an
unprotected hand without damage.

Lord Gassion de Beaumarchais
Cadet to Don James Francis Navarre
Mooneschadowe Insegnante

Control thyself, or be ruled by another...


-----Original Message-----
From: ansteorra-rapier-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
[mailto:ansteorra-rapier-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of David
Whitford
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 5:04 PM
To: Ansteorra RapierNet
Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] gauntlets and rapier


Sounds like you could use a butchers glove except that
the palm is not protected from damage in a blade grab.
Robert
--- rurikthered at swordworks.org wrote:

> Also,
> 
> I assume you are talkign about a glove with only
> chain on the back side
> and not necessarily a fine maille across the palm
> (like a butchers
> glove)in blade grabbing, correct?
> 
> Rurik
> 
> 
> > So the hand with the guantlet can still be used
> for blade grabbing?  Just
> > wanting to make sure.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/9/07, James Crouchet <james at crouchet.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Both Robert and Brian are correct about the
> gauntlets.
> >>
> >> Don Aeron added mail gauntlets in the April 2006
> edition of the
> >> Ansteorran
> >> Rapier Rules as a new secondary. This is not
> restricted to "armor as
> >> worn"
> >> tournaments. However, as with *all* weapons and
> secondaries, you and
> >> your
> >> opponent must agree that those weapons are
> acceptable.
> >>
> >> There are a few points of note concerning mail
> gauntlets:
> >>
> >>
> >>    - Basically, it must be a REAL metal/chain
> gauntlet and only the
> >>    areas covered with metal are proof against
> hits.
> >>    - The gauntlet does NOT protect the hand from
> being damaged if the
> >>    hand is grasping a blade and that blade moves
> or twists in the hand.
> >>    - The gauntlet is a secondary, not a gloved
> hand, and thus is NOT
> >>    approved for use against the other fighter's
> person (no "fleeting
> >> contact").
> >>
> >>
> >> Christian Doré, Kingdom Rapier Marshal
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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