[Ansteorra-rapier] When to wear a mail glove (was: Ansteorra-rapier Digest, Vol 17, Issue 4)

[David Whitford]

But two of your three would then allow us to do armor
as worn

On the other hand, if you're figuring it as a
> formal, judicial-style 
> duel, then the armor and weapons would be whatever
> was agreed upon 
> beforehand. (Which could be anything from daggers
> and shirtsleeves to 
> full plate with jousting lances.)

On the third hand, if you're figuring it as a
> friendly competition 
> for exercise and the amusement of our ladies, or a
> formal Prize or 
> Challenge under the auspices of the London Masters
> of Defence, the 
> Marxbruder, or another combat school, then, again,
> the equipment 
> would be whatever was agreed upon by the combatants
> beforehand.

Which while sounding fun seems to make alot of folks
nervous
 Robert
--- Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com> wrote:

> At 07:33 AM 10/10/2007, you wrote:
> 
> >Well, using the logic of "what would happen in a
> duel", most of us assume
> >that a duel is civilian combat and we are wearing
> civilian "street"
> >clothing, so why would a mail gauntlet have been
> worn?  We have masks/helms
> >and gorgets, and additional protection for elbows &
> knees in Cut & Thrust,
> >but those are conventions we use for protection
> from injury.  Unless
> >something is being done as "armor as worn", and Cut
> & Thrust which
> >transitioned from armored to civilian combat, using
> a mail gauntlet to fight
> >a rapier duel seems inconsistent at least, goofy at
> most. IMO.
> >
> >Corvin
> 
> A lot depends on the mindset you're using for the
> bout. If you're 
> figuring an SCA rapier bout is a chance encounter in
> the street, 
> leading to an immediate duel, then you're right that
> the participants 
> probably wouldn't be wearing a mail glove.
> 
> On the other hand, if you're figuring it as a
> formal, judicial-style 
> duel, then the armor and weapons would be whatever
> was agreed upon 
> beforehand. (Which could be anything from daggers
> and shirtsleeves to 
> full plate with jousting lances.)
> 
> On the third hand, if you're figuring it as a
> friendly competition 
> for exercise and the amusement of our ladies, or a
> formal Prize or 
> Challenge under the auspices of the London Masters
> of Defence, the 
> Marxbruder, or another combat school, then, again,
> the equipment 
> would be whatever was agreed upon by the combatants
> beforehand.
> 
> So in three cases out of four, there *is* a
> reasonable possibility 
> that a mail glove would be an opotion for the the
> fighters.
> 
>          -Tivar Moondragon
> 
> 
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