[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules

Howard Rachel kazimir.petrovich at gmail.com
Thu Oct 11 07:24:31 PDT 2012


You're right.  The carpet armor is a perfect analogy.  Some folks DO still
use it --disguised-- on the body, to replicate a lack of obvious armor,
though its use has declined.  Perfect analogy.  I wouldn't want to outlaw
carpet armor.., either.  Doing so would be the worst sort of bullying.

The "out of period" nature of foils and epees, as an argument for
eliminating them, fails for me, as well.  As long as the SCA uses rattan to
emulate swords (in the face of more realistic and available simulators!),
my disbelief is sufficient to overlook foils and epees.  I find this to be
a red herring argument.

However.., the apparently increasing lack of experience on the part of the
marshalate to inspect foils and epees might be a good reason to consider
eliminating foils and epees.  So, too, the inertia of SCA-wide change.
Even "the will of the people" ought to encourage a debate.  Use for adults
training with youth, too.  BUT, these are these are reasons to *discuss it
and recommend several courses of action (and the pros/cons of each) to the
decision-makers*.  On their face, they are, in my opinion, insufficient
to support an ill-informed going in position for the elimination of foil
and epee.

I could not agree more strongly with Don Tivar and Don Robin.

Don Kazimir
.., yeah, I don't live there anymore


On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Peter Wohlers <donpieter at aol.com> wrote:

> Yes much better than the car analogy.
> Thanks
> P
>
> Cave quid dicis, quando, et cui
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 11, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Andrew Heinrich <andrew.heinrich at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Regarding the somewhat lacking car analogy - we don't wear carpet armor
> anymore, either. It works, it's functional, and it's cheap, but we don't
> use it. And we don't use it because it breaks our evolving aesthetic, and
> is simply and objectively inferior as an armor simulator. Much like an epee
> and a foil is an objectively inferior rapier simulator.
> >
> > - Mateo
> >
> >
> > --
> > it is good to know, it is better to do, it is best to be.
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