[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules

[Chris Zakes]

At 09:58 AM 10/12/2012, you wrote:

>On Oct 11, 2012, at 5:06 PM, Chris Zakes <dontivar at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > At 10:05 AM 10/11/2012, you wrote:
> >
> >> Long thread and possibly I missed the discussion about the 
> relation between our armor requirements and epees. I hold no malice 
> towards epees although mine has become a pell in the last few 
> years. I do hold malice towards the puncture resistant amor we wear.
> >>
> >> Would restricting our weapons to heavy rapier move us closer to 
> dispensing with puncture resistant armor?
> >>
> >> HE Orlando
> >
> > It would be a singularly bad idea. There's a fair bit of evidence 
> that an untipped heavy blade has penetration characteristics 
> similar to a flat-broken foil or epee. Our current armor standard 
> can pretty well be relied on to stop either blade type, but once 
> you start removing layers, the chance of a dangerous penetration 
> injury increases significantly.
> >
> > 
> http://web.archive.org/web/19990302032547/www.iceweasel.org/ek_schlager_test.html
> > http://moondragon.info/wiki/Schlager_Penetration_Tests
> > http://moondragon.info/wiki/Testing_lighter_armor
> >
> >        -Tivar Moondragon

>I'm taking a shot in the dark here but is the problem the 
>required/expected politeness in the rapier community? If someone 
>came up in a tournament and brought two epees the other person would 
>feel obligated to fight not only with a weapon they don't fight with 
>but also with a rig that's not theirs.
>Ramirez

??? I'm kind of confused here. Orlando and I were talking about 
reducing the current armor standard (and the accompanying greater 
risk of a penetration injury.) What does that have to do with 
politeness or feeling obligated to fight with an unfamiliar weapon?

         -Tivar Moondragon