[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules

[Barone Orlando Di Gilead]

On medical needs. We want to be as inclusive as possible BUT there will
always be a point when a persons medical condition makes it difficult to
participate in a sport.

Orlando

On Wednesday, October 10, 2012, David Cordes wrote:

> While I think the idea is in general a good one, there are a couple of
> specific issues that I have with it.
>
> The first of these is cost-based.  Yes, heavy rapiers are relatively
> cheap and readily available today, but particularly for someone with
> little disposable income (people like students, at least in theory!),
> a light blade is potentially a more practical investment.
>
> The second concern is more fundamental, I think.  If or when this
> measure goes through, what happens to those who for medical reasons
> (generally problems of some sort in the arm) cannot use a heavy blade
> (or at least cannot use it for any useful amount of time)?  Yes, the
> proposed change allows for variances from it, but by the current
> wording, this is only for individual events.  This change would mean
> that those fencers could only fence at events where they notified the
> marshal in charge that they were going to be attending and wanting to
> fence with light blade more than a month in advance, and that said
> marshal in charge got the appropriate permission, more than a month
> before the event.  The other question with respect to this, is what
> happens at practices?  If its an official practice, would we still be
> able to give people who come up and express an interest the chance to
> try fencing with  a light blade?
>
> In service
> Asbiorn
>
>
> On 10 October 2012 09:04, Pug Bainter <pug at pug.net> wrote:
> > Good Morning,
> >
> >
> >
> >   As some folks know, we are working on reducing the Kingdom Rapier rules
> > down to match the other marshal areas by simply being statements of
> where we
> > differ from Society. This greatly reduces the complexity while improving
> the
> > clarify of our rules. It also allows for less churn when Society makes
> > changes.
> >
> >
> >
> >   When discussing this recently with the Don Iago (KRM), Sir John (KEM),
> > Duke Ulsted (KSen) and Their August Majesties, I made a proposal which
> > generated a concern there may be some pushback based on earlier
> discussions.
> > Because of this concern, I asked permission to socialize this item with
> the
> > community to see if the concerns are still warranted.
> >
> >
> >
> >   First, and foremost, we are a historical recreation group. This means
> we
> > need to be able to remember our history from time to time. Because of
> that,
> > the wording on this was very specific.
> >
> >
> >
> >   It has come to pass that the evolution of our fencing blades has been
> > successful and the fading out of light rapier blades has succeeded. As
> part
> > of our rules simplification, there is one item I would like to propose
> > because it is in reality but not in law.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ansteorra convention: Except under the Youth Rapier Program, Light
> Rapier is
> > to be eliminated within the borders of Ansteorra effective March 17th,
> 2013.
> > After that date, Light Rapier blades can only be used with variances
> > obtained in writing from the Kingdom Rapier Marshal at least 30 days in
> > advance such as for historical SCA theme events. Ansteorra’s Rapier
> > authorizations permit use of Light Rapier blades at out of Kingdom events
> > where allowed.
> >
> >
> >
> >   In order to make sure we don’t cause any knee jerk reactions, the date
> > suggested here is to ensure that it will be published in the BlackStar
> and
> > socialized at Gulf Wars with our rapier community before going into
> effect.
> >
> >
> >
> >   When first thinking through the elimination of light rapier blades
> (foils
> > & epees), it concerned me a great bit because of Bryn Gwlad just recently
> > having an anniversary event where some of the older equipment was not
> only
> > displayed for viewing, but also used in a tournament. The wording was
> > selected to allow for that in case others were interested in these types
> of
> > nostalgic events as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >   Going back to us being a historical recreation group, the styles of
> weapon
> > we call a foil and epee today were created in the late 17th to 19th
> century
> > replacing the blades that we are commonly using within our heavy rapier
> > program. So while we may be taking a step back from our origins as an
> > organization, we are taking a step forward by disallowing historically
> > inaccurate weapons.
> >
> >
> >
> >   There are some other arguments that could be used to counter this that
> > have show> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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