[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules

[Sean Hertzberg]

No, for the same reason I do not have to carry a modern saber blade in my
bag to show a marshal that it is not allowed.

Avery

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Candice Blaschke
<solarandraste at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Won't you still have to throw that one or two extra blades in the bag for
> instruction reasons, even if it is just to show new marshal's what an epee
> is so they don't allow them on the field?
>
> Candice
>
>   *From:* Sean Hertzberg <colsith at gmail.com>
> *To:* Kira Langsjoen <kolfinnakyrii at yahoo.com>; Ansteorra RapierNet <
> ansteorra-rapier at lists.ansteorra.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2012 1:40 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules
>
> Again, then we are saying that we will need to require marshals to carry
> around an extra blade for instruction.  One that only gets used on very
> rare occasions.  As I said before, once in the last 7 years.  For me, I do
> not see the point in continuing to have something that folks are going to
> be required to know if they are simply not being used.  Why require
> training for something that is not happening?  How many people have had an
> occasion to need to use or inspect an epee or a foil in the last 5 years?
>  Not counting the Bryn Gwlad throwback event, my guess would be less than
> 10 total in the entire kingdom.
>
> 6 years ago, the reasoning for not dropping foils and epees was that we
> should let them die their natural death.  6 years later, they have done so.
>  This rule change would simply acknowledge what has already happened.
> YMMV ~shrug~
>
> Avery
> (and yes, I still have a case of epees in the garage, just do not have a
> reason to use them)
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Kira Langsjoen <kolfinnakyrii at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>  From your email below, Avery, you are saying that the issue is that we
> marshals are not being trained to inspect all the types of blades that can
> be used in tournaments and in practices.  We are only being trained to use
> the "popular" ones, the heavy rapiers.  Shouldn't the solution be to better
> train and familiarize the marshals with the inspection and use of
> epees/foils (which /do/ get used at practices rather often, in my
> experience), rather than changing the rules in a way that accommodate our
> inadequacies?
>
> kolfinna in kyrra Otarsdottir
>
>
>   *From:* Sean Hertzberg <colsith at gmail.com>
> *To:* Jay Rudin <rudin at ev1.net>; Ansteorra RapierNet <
> ansteorra-rapier at lists.ansteorra.org>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:24 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules
>
> The main issue for this change, from what I can see (remember, I am not
> the one proposing this, this is my personal take on it) has less to do with
> the fighters using it.  It is the lack of marshals that have ever seen one
> and would know what to look for to see if the blade in question is safe.  I
> will use Don Lorenzo as an example, my apologies if anyone is offended. :-)
>
> Don Lorenzo has been playing for around 5 years now.  He is now a WS, he
> is the southern regional marshal, he is an authorizing marshal...and I
> don't know if he has ever seen an epee or a foil, let alone if he would
> know how to inspect one.  That is just one example....how many marshals out
> there would look and an epee or foil and have no idea what they were
> supposed to do?  This is not a training issue, it is just that the newer
> marshals have never had a chance to see one as they show up so very rarely.
>
>
> Avery
>
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