[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules

Iago Cabrera de Cadiz baroniago at earthlink.net
Mon Oct 15 11:32:30 PDT 2012

I'm trying to keep out of this discussion and be as informed as  
possible when I make my recommendation to the crown and earl marshal.  
Ideally, that will be done by saturday at the latest. Once I step down  
as KRM, (also hopefully on saturday), I'll be happy to share my  
opinion, but for now, I will keep my opinion out of the discussion.

On Oct 15, 2012, at 12:13 PM, Puck Curtis wrote:

> The Rapier Marshallate is not a democracy and this is not the first  
> time this conversation has occurred.  Eventually a marshal is going  
> to ditch these weapons over the objections of a few people that want  
> to keep them as tournament-legal forms.  As far as unpopular  
> decisions go, this is minor league stuff.  There is little more use  
> to be had from continuously churning the butter as it is the  
> internet equivalent of a 3 week rope-a-dope that does nothing but  
> delay change.  If this KRM doesn't do it, the next one might, and if  
> not that one, then maybe the next.
> Take a page from Yoda; do or do not.
> The potty, it you must get off of.
> Somebody poke the KRM to draw his/her line in the sand and let's get  
> on with our lives.
> ~P.
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:43 AM, Pug Bainter <pug at pug.net> wrote:
> Tivar, no matter what we say, we aren't going to convince you that  
> these are
> a risk. While they have been deemed "safe" in the past, there is a  
> history
> of higher breakage with foils and epees than with heavy blades.
> Unfortunately while I can't produce statistics, I can produce  
> results from a
> survey done in 2004 at
> http://www.therotunda.net/rapier/survey-1/q11-light-blades.shtml where
> several kingdoms pointed out that foils and epees break more  
> frequently than
> heavy blades. While they are on our books, the majority of the  
> fighters and
> marshals don't know how to inspect them properly and know what makes  
> them
> unsafe now elevating our risk for a statistically insignificant usage.
> It is particularly disturbing to me that we're authorizing people in a
> fighting style that people aren't actually using. If we don't  
> eliminate the
> blades, we probably need a reeducation and cleansing program of our  
> current
> participant and marshal list by actually enforcing the requirement  
> to see
> them show proficiency in the light blades.
> Ciao
> Pug
> -- 
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