[Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules

[Iago Cabrera de Cadiz]

When fighting with schlagers was added, there was already a "rapier"  
authorization. With the new, heavier blades, calling them "heavy  
rapier" made sense at the time. It simply hasn't changed.

Iago
On Oct 15, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Chuck Kaun wrote:

> Exactly so...there is no "light" anywhere on the cards for rapier.
>
> I am curious about why and thought about something else.
>
> I am fairly new to the rapier community, about 4 years now.  When I  
> first started, it was not about epee/foil versus rapier but about  
> the pre-existing smaller Rapier blades versus the new heavier  
> Schlager blades which seemed to be in every discussion.
>
> That may be why we are seeing rapier versus Heavy rapier on the  
> cards.  People have merely forgoten why and are assuming it has to  
> do with epee/foil.  Is this possible?
>
> Karl Thorgeirsson
>
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 08:24:53 -0500
> From: colsith at gmail.com
> To: ansteorra-rapier at lists.ansteorra.org
> Subject: Re: [Ansteorra-rapier] Proposed revision to rapier rules
>
> But the cards do not reflect that.  The cards have three slots for  
> Rapier.
>
> 1. Rapier Combat
> 2. Heavy Rapier Combat
> 3. Rapier Combat Marshal
>
> So there is a disconnect between what you are seeing and what the  
> cards show.
>
> Avery
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Katy Hendrick <pancua at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> From the Marshalate database.
>
> The authorizing cards are not set up for Rapier Combat. The auth  
> cards are set up for Light or Heavy and then Marshal.
>
> Unless a marshal only checked off light when meant heavy, which  
> could happen but I would like to think a Marshal would know better.
>
> --Dena
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Sean Hertzberg <colsith at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> Um....where are you getting these numbers?  If someone is authorized  
> for "Rapier Combat" in Ansteorra, they are authed for E/F.  I would  
> be shocked if there were only 20 fighters that have that on their  
> cards.  Difference between those authorized to fight it vs those  
> that choose to fight it.
>
> Avery
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Katy Hendrick <pancua at gmail.com>  
> wrote:
> I think the fact that people are authorized to marshal a blade they  
> have no clue about is a huge "broken" point.
>
> Speaking from a simple numbers perspective, there really aren't that  
> many fighters that fight F/E. Out of 500+ fencers, less than 20 of  
> those are even authorized and of those 20, I know of at least 10  
> personally that don't fight F/E so I am not even sure why or how  
> they got authorized.
>
> --Dena
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Elisabeth B. Zakes <kitharis at gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Working from the statement, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it," what  
> is broken that we're trying to fix here? I've seen several solutions  
> proposed, but I still haven't seen what we're proposing solutions FOR.
>
> Aethelyan
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