[Bards] RE: Bards Digest, Vol 9, Issue 7

[Tim Jennings]

Hiya all,

I thought I would mention that the definitions on this page are not, in some
cases, correct.

For instance, the definition for a Sonnet redoubled is "Fifteen sonnets are
linked together on this form. Each line of the first sonnet provides the
first or last line of the following fourteen sonnets", when in actuality
this is a variation on the "Corona' called a "Sonentto Magistrale", where
there are 14 joined sonnets and the 15th is made up of the 14 sets of '1st
lines'

A 'sonnet doubled' is a series of 28 lines using the style of the sonnet as
its base (and all the variations that implies). A Sonnet cycle or Sonnet
sequence (which might include a sonnet 'redoubled' (I am assuming that means
56 lines) is simply a series of sonnets (in fact there is a book by m.F.
Crow called Elizabethan Sonnet Cycles (pub date :1896) that might be worth
looking at.

Heroic Verse could certainly include a sonnet style, but I think that the
definition of a "Heroic Sonnet' is likely a variation of the modern age (and
perhaps specifically of the school of thought of the web page admin). The
western poet of period, from the age of the Troubadours on through to the
Renaissance, was concerned with the constraint of form, and variations on
that constraint. The experts created new forms using these variations, but
did not see them as 'the same form'. The concept of an 18 line sonnet that
included some 'extra heroic couplets' seems unlikely. The Elegiac Stanza
(sometimes called a 'Heroic Quatrain'), which follows the sonnet 'abab'
rhyme scheme and meter, was not made popular until the Mid 1700's (Gray's
'Elegy written in a Churchyard' comes to mind). Certainly Shakespeare used
the heroic Quatrain, but this style wasn't really established until the
Romantics (who loved it;)

Hope that helps

Garraed (way North- brrrr)


Tim Jennings
General Manager
Roseneath Theatre
519 787 2399
www.roseneath.ca


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An interesting site with different forms of sonnets on it, a brief history
of the form and examples.

At the bottom, there is a very brief description of the "heroic sonnet", but
no example. Can anyone give me more info on this one? Like, is it period?

http://poetry.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geociti
es.com%2FVienna%2FStrasse%2F9282%2Fsonnet.htm

Thanks,
Esther


 

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