[Bards] My apologies to John Travolta and the Beegees, but it just kind of happened
Beth
celtic_wolff at yahoo.com
Wed May 28 07:28:29 PDT 2008
Thanks Allon,
I've played this game for over 20 years now and unfortunately there always will be some who cannot relax enough to enjoy a laugh or two. Apologize for nothing, brother. Even some Laurels we know have filked to modern day pieces......you might even say it was done "forseussly". Relax people, and give it a rest!
Elanor
"Little girls, this seems to say, Never stop upon your way.
Never trust a stranger-friend; No one knows how it will end.
As you're pretty, so be wise; Wolves may lurk in every guise.
Handsome they may be, and kind, Gay, or charming never mind!
Now, as then, 'tis simple truth...
Sweetest tongue has sharpest tooth!"
--- On Mon, 5/26/08, James Rushin <dweezle at pcsok.com> wrote:
> From: James Rushin <dweezle at pcsok.com>
> Subject: Re: [Bards] My apologies to John Travolta and the Beegees, but it just kind of happened
> To: "'Ansteorran Bardic list'" <bards at lists.ansteorra.org>
> Date: Monday, May 26, 2008, 4:35 AM
> For the love of the Gods!! This is exactly why I don't
> post to lists. I
> could go on and on and rebuke different points and argue my
> "case" as it
> where. But I don't have to. Its been done by
> countless numbers of people
> over many different lists ever since I began playing 10
> years ago. But this
> was posted in fun. As to singing it at an event, I
> wouldn't even sing it to
> my wife while sitting in front of the computer after I
> filked it. I
> personally am quite tired of hearing the whole argument for
> and against
> filk, its been beaten to death and bantered over for at
> least 10 years.
> It's a Game played in Fun. I wish we could remember
> that and keep it that
> way.
>
>
>
> Allon
>
>
>
> From: bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org
> [mailto:bards-bounces at lists.ansteorra.org] On Behalf Of Ken
> Theriot
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 5:53 PM
> To: 'Ansteorran Bardic list'
> Subject: Re: [Bards] My apologies to John Travolta and the
> Beegees, but it
> just kind of happened
>
>
>
> OK, just as an example of what I was saying before..this is
> all in good fun,
> and appropriate for certain venues. I can certainly
> appreciate it in that
> way. But may I please make an appeal to everyone to NOT
> sing this at an
> event, at least not until it is well after midnight and
> sufficiently drunk
> out? I know I'm gonna get yelled at, and I don't
> mean to kick anyone's
> puppy. But I just wish the bardic arts in Ansteorra could
> steer itself away
> from filks to obviously modern songs. It starts out as
> something everyone
> gets a good laugh at, and then before you know it, people
> are singing it at
> competitions and bardic circles, and it spreads and
> can't be contained. So
> what is wrong with it? Well first and foremost, it is
> illegal. The song
> this was filked to (and I could name half a dozen others
> that I have
> recently heard sung in competitions that are in the same
> category) is under
> active copyright. That means the tune AND the words. Most
> of the filks I
> hear actually don't even change that many words from
> the original! I have
> literally heard someone sing a song that was identical to
> the modern
> original except for changing one word to
> "Ansteorra." When you publicly
> perform a copyrighted work that is not your own, you break
> the law. And
> guess who is liable? Not you! The person/group performing
> the copyrighted
> song is not who would be sued in the event of legal action.
> It is the
> venue. So technically, any of the sites where we hold
> events could
> literally be sued for copyright infringement if one of our
> members performs
> a song under active copyright. Even if the filker changed
> every word, and
> wrote a completely new lyric (would that it were so!!!),
> the use of the tune
> is still protected. Secondly, as I mentioned in an earlier
> post on filk,
> obviously modern tunes can snap people out of the medieval
> reverie. You
> would NEVER blast a boom box of The BeeGees in the middle
> of an event. So
> how is this any different? We strive to avoid it in every
> other area, but
> seem to actively encourage it in our art.
>
> I recently judged the bardic competition (with Dona
> Antonia) at Squires and
> Cadets, and one competitor sang a filk called "Always
> a Herald to Me." The
> mere fact that I am a huge Billy Joel fan in my mundane
> life is the main
> reason why that performance killed the SCA atmosphere for
> me. I had "Always
> a Woman to Me" stuck in my head the rest of the day.
>
>
>
> Don Mateo, who is an excellent bard recently moved into
> Ansteorra, has a
> great filk story. He said he wrote a filk several years
> ago, and stuck the
> paper away somewhere. A few years later, he found the
> paper and had
> completely forgotten what tune he had filked it to (which
> means he wrote a
> completely new lyric, and didn't just change 3 or 4
> words from the original,
> or he would have recognized it...hint..hint). So he was
> forced to write an
> original tune to it. Voila! A completely new work, words
> and lyrics.
>
>
>
> OK, so I made a big deal out of something that was just for
> fun. I realize
> that. I posted the Viking filk to the Llama song on this
> list..but as an
> example of bad versus better filk. I just wanted to voice
> this opinion once
> again after hearing sooooo many modern filks this weekend.
>
>
>
>
> Now I am going to try to stave off this descending cloud of
> fatigue and
> unconsciousness until bed time..if....possible.
> Bjornsborg....far
> away..from...Steppes.
>
>
>
> Kenneth
>
>
>
> PS I heard some fantastic performances at the competition
> last night! Our
> kingdom is truly blessed with some awesome talent.
>
>
>
> -K
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: James Rushin [mailto:dweezle at pcsok.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 2:51 AM
> To: 'Ansteorran Bardic list'
> Subject: [Bards] My apologies to John Travolta and the
> Beegees,but it just
> kind of happened
>
>
>
>
>
> Stayin' Alive
>
> Tune by the Bee Gees
>
> Words by Ld. Allon McBaine
>
>
>
>
>
> Well you can tell by the way I use my walk
>
> I'm a fightin' man, no time to talk.
>
> Freon helms, and duct taped swords,
>
> I've been knocked around,
>
> Since before you were born.
>
> But it's all right, it's ok,
>
> This bout can go any other way.
>
> You should try to understand,
>
> I swear it's nothin' personal man.
>
>
>
>
>
> If your hesitatin' then it's your life I'm
> takin',
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> See the shields breakin', feel the ground shakin'.
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> HA HA Ha Ha stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> HA HA HA HA stayin' alive...
>
>
>
>
>
> Well now, I swing low and I swing high,
>
> And If I can't get in, then I'll really try.
>
> Got the wings of Ravens on my shoes,
>
> I'm Odin's man and I just can't lose.
>
> You know it's all right, it's Ok.
>
> I'll live to see another day.
>
> You should try to understand,
>
> I swear its nothin' personal man.
>
>
>
>
>
> If your hesitatin' then it's your life I'm
> takin',
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> See the shields breakin', feel the ground shakin'.
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> HA HA Ha Ha stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> HA HA HA HA stayin' alive...
>
>
>
>
>
> Fights, goin' nowhere, somebody help him.
>
> Somebody help him, please.
>
> Fights goin' nowhere, somebody help them,
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive...
>
>
>
>
>
> Well you can tell by the way I use my walk
>
> I'm a fightin' man, no time to talk.
>
> Freon helms, and duct taped swords,
>
> I've been knocked around,
>
> Since before you were born.
>
> But it's all right, it's ok,
>
> This bout can go any other way.
>
> You should try to understand,
>
> I swear it's nothin' personal man.
>
>
>
>
>
> If your hesitatin' then its your life I'm
> takin',
>
> Cause I'm stayin alive, stayin alive.
>
> See the shields breakin', feel the ground shakin'.
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> HA HA Ha Ha stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
>
> HA HA HA HA stayin' alive...
>
>
>
>
>
> Fights, goin' nowhere, somebody help him.
>
> Somebody help him, please.
>
> Fights goin' nowhere, somebody help them,
>
> Cause I'm stayin' alive...
>
>
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