[Bards] Query

[Ivy Crane]

Jeffery Clark:
"On the other side of the issue: if I were going to Kingdom A&S with a garb
entry and I walked in with a strip of fabric and noted in my documentation
that it normally would have been a dress but I didn't have the
time/means/motivation to actually turn the fabric into a dress... would that
be acceptable too?"

Although a somewhat valid point, this is a completely different issue. A
piece performed without the intended accompaniement still serves as both
a recognizable representation of that period work as well as functions, most
importantly, as entertainment (especially if we're only considering the SCA
arts community here). A strip of fabric, however, cannot be either
recognized as proper clothing representation or can it be used as a suitable
garment. (Not to mention it's a lot easier to make a dress by yourself than
to accompany yourself.)

It really depends on if the judges are judging on how precisely perfect and
accurate a performer can present his piece or whether they are judging on
the effort and talent of the performer himself (and both kinds of judges I
have met.)

Just my two cents in this interesting little discussion.

Lily

 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 18:57:49 -0600
> From: Jeffrey Clark <jmclark85 at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Bards] Query
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> "That sort of performance is possible, true, and would be neat to see, but
> the arts community should not penalize a performer for not having an orator
> and a harper - and never has, to my knowledge.'
>
> The SCA arts community, you mean. In academia or the professional world,
> performing a work that you do not have the forces to pull of is highly
> frowned upon and can--in some cases--end your career.
>
> On the other side of the issue: if I were going to Kingdom A&S with a garb
> entry and I walked in with a strip of fabric and noted in my documentation
> that it normally would have been a dress but I didn't have the
> time/means/motivation to actually turn the fabric into a dress... would
> that
> be acceptable too?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 6:51 PM, SBarrett <barrett1 at cox.net> wrote:
>
> > If I really liked the piece and thought it was a strong option for
> > performance, I would proceed solo, while informing the judges that when
> it
> > was created, it was accompanied.
> > If asked why my piece was not accompanied (which I doubt would happen) I
> > would simply inform the judges that it was impractical for me to arrange
> > that.
> >
> > Showing a working knowledge of the origin of the piece should be
> expected,
> > but I would not expect judges to lower a score because a performer didn't
> > bring a partner, a choir or a band as backup.
> >
> > Many poetic pieces performed in Ireland (for example) were written by the
> > File, or Ollamh (master bard), and were spoken by one student while
> another
> > played the harp to accent the oration. The bard himself merely stood by,
> > letting his compostion speak for itself.
> > That sort of performance is possible, true, and would be neat to see, but
> > the arts community should not penalize a performer for not having an
> orator
> > and a harper - and never has, to my knowledge.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hirling" <jhirling at gmail.com>
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> > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 5:48 PM
> > Subject: [Bards] Query
> >
> >
> >
> >  Here's a question:  You want to enter a vocal piece for Kingdom A & S
> but
> >> all your research affirms that the piece would be accompanied.  You are
> >> unable to accompany yourself.  How would you proceed?
> >> ~ihon
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