ES - Courtesy & Other Things JSHAW3412 at
Wed May 27 11:10:13 PDT 1998

In a message dated 5/27/98 12:50:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
StoneCircle at writes:

     	I would like to add comments on another note of courtesy 
 however. Since I have been playing (again) I have noticed that the 
 courtesy on the whole is not what it used to be (5 years ago, when I 
 began). At both Elfsea Defender, and Elfsea Springfaire I got to site 
 before my lord, and set up camp by myself. On both occasions there 
 were men (healthy full grown men) standing around watching me, who 
 never  offered to help me. (At Defender they did finally offer 
 when I went to set up the walls of my tent.) This weekend, there were 
 several times when I was walking from camp to the list field with 
 my arms full of HEAVY things, no one offered to come to my 
 aid, and when we were setting up camp (next to the vigil) on Friday 
 night, there were several Knights who stood and watched myself and 
 another lady unloading our vehicles, without the offer of aid. How 
 are newcomers supposed to learn these things if not by example?
 	As for asking for help, it seems to me that since chivalry,(the 
 respect and courtesy with which we are supposed to treat one another) 
 is one of the main building blocks, which the Society has been 
 created upon, no one should have to ask. Maybe that is taking a bit 
 of a hard stand, but then again my belief is that most of us are big 
 boys and girls and shouldn't have to be reminded like children. If 
 those of us who have been around a while, will teach by example, then 
 newer people will learn, and will understand much better, than being 
 told "Do as I say, not as I (or a good portion of the people) do."
 *stepping off my soapbox, yet once again* >>


Thank you you said it so much better than I did earlier.
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