ES - Elfsea Defender

[Rayburn, Timothy]

The arguement you have laid forth is interesting, but fails in that what
Kingdom Law says, (of which I am taking your word on), does nothing more
than what alot of our Kingdom law does in a variety of areas : Place FURTHER
strictures than corpora does.  Just as there are minimal requirements put
out for fighting by the Society, and the Kingdom has the rules maintained by
the Earl Marshall which expand and add to this.

Please remember that His Excellency is trying to make this game better, is
not after those people who have leather hiking boots or such, but is trying
to stop the blatantly modern, and those items which in the blatant
modernality might give unfair advantages (ie : Soccer shoes with spiked
soles give much better traction, tear up the listfield, and always are
marked with very modern symbolism which does not encourage the dream.)

Timothy


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Amy & Bill Morris [SMTP:awmorris at flash.net]
> Sent:	Tuesday, August 03, 1999 11:00 AM
> To:	elfsea at Ansteorra.ORG
> Subject:	Re: ES - Elfsea Defender
> 
> SCA law and custom state that anyone who ATTEMPTS to maintain a
> period appearance is welcome in the SCA.  So newbies, or poor college
> students who make a reasonable attempt given their experience and budget
> are always welcome.  And this has always been tempered by common sense
> regarding eyeglasses baby stuff, etc.  
>    Kingdom law states that nothing blatantly modern may be displayed
> without crown or autocrat permission.  This has never been enforced as
> written, exceptions have always been made for tents, baby stuff,
> toilets, handicapped equipment, etc.  Permission is assumed, even if
> never given.  If enforced as written this would conflict with the SCA
> and would have to be removed from kingdom law.
>    Could someone more familiar with SCA policies check this, it would
> seem possible that as a branch, we can not deny participation to anyone
> making a reasonable attempt to appear period.  I have seen similar
> things done but always by a household.
>         
> 
> mblareau wrote:
> > 
> > THANK YOU "we lose sight that this is just for fun and not everyone can
> > afford 500$ boots.
> > 
> > Robert Singleton wrote:
> > >
> > > "Marsh, Todd W." wrote:
> > >
> > > > The SCA has always had a rule that everyone must make "some attempt
> at
> > > > period clothing" to attend an event.
> > > >
> > > > Please help spread the word that this rule will be enforced at
> Elfsea
> > > > Defender on the list field.  This means that people wearing
> excessively
> > > > mundane clothes or SHOES will not be allowed to enter the
> tournaments.
> > > >
> > > > Any questions?
> > >
> > > A couple of questions, actually...
> > >
> > > Obviously, T-shirt, jeans and Reboks would be right out, no argument.
> > >
> > > The grey areas would be of more concern. How would "excessively
> mundane"
> > > clothes or shoes be defined and by whom? Will newcomers be held to a
> > > different standard than veterans? How about veteran players who are
> > > newbie fighters? When does a newbie lose newbie status? What if two
> > > fighters are wearing the same or very similar boots but one is denied
> a
> > > tournament and the other gets to play? I know that if I were not
> allowed
> > > to fight due to such a rule, I would be taking a very careful
> inventory
> > > of EVERY fighter's gear. I don't feel that is the spirit of what we
> are
> > > doing here.
> > >
> > > I agree that everyone, including myself, needs to take steps to
> > > eliminate as much mundanity as possible, however, I now feel a little
> > > nervous about a planned purchase of new boots to fight in. What if
> they
> > > (for example) are deemed inappropriate for what will likely be the
> first
> > > actual tourney I have fought in? Not a nice first tourney experience.
> > >
> > > Lord Robert of Slugglen
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Robert Singleton
> > >
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> > > Kingdom of Ansteorra
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> > > The Sol System
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> > >
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > > People need to give Bill Clinton a little slack. He is doing the work
> of
> > > three men:
> > > Larry, Curly, and Moe.
> > >
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