ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney

Wed Jun 14 18:34:07 PDT 2000

I do believe that our steward has a clever idea here.

Think of the pomp and showmanship of having some rather impressive entrances
on the field of all those fighters coming one after the other - one would
practically swoon from the heralds' cries of their patrons' names and the
sight of such pageantry as rapier and chivalric fighters entered the field.
Imagine how nice it would be to be able to armor down and cool off between
rounds.  (Remember how hot September can be.)  And of course, all the ladies
would expect the cadets to be out in force to impress them with their
courtly graces and tempt them with gifts of fine chocolate or whatever else
Her Excellency might find to her palate's liking.  And let's not forget
those who want to be cadets and of course, the White Scarfs would have to
show all of them how to behave with style and grace, setting the example for
all.  Then, we watch them fight, whilst we are wooed by stories and songs
from those who carry our favor onto the list with their chivalric weapons
and they tell us their last pairing on the field.  The squires, learning
from their knights the arts of combat and of courtly love, seek to impress
both the ladies and their peers both on and off the field and then to have
your fighter tell you how much it meant to them knowing that you were
watching.  Such strong fighters, humbled by their consorts looks and
sighs...yes... I can certainly see the benefits of a day spent like that.
And let us not forget the archers, who shoot for the honor of our fair
barony as well.  I am sure that at some point a "progress" to the archery
area could be arranged.

To be a Defender of Elfsea would certainly be a mark of distinction - for
how many "defenders" are there in this kingdom who defend not only the land,
but the heart, as well.

just my .02 worth...well okay, my .25 worth
Medb Liath

----- Original Message -----
From: <gutridge at us.ibm.com>
To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 6:19 PM
Subject: RE: ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney

Warning :  Sarcastic reply comming!

I would not go out of my way to attend an all rapier event, it is not of
interest to me.  If there was a tournament on the same weekend elsewhere I
would probably attend that!   I feel that this would strongly be the
opinion of many people.  Change is not always a bad thing, but in this case
I feel that we would end up with an event (springfaire) that would not be
well attended.

The point may be that we have to tone down the chivalric list a bit so that
appropriate attention could be given to the light fighters.  Maybe we run a
round of light fighting followed by a round of heavy fignting, continuing
in this manner all day.  This would expose more people to light fighting
that otherwise may not watch and would allow the crown to attend both
equally.  Yes, this is a long day but would also give a lot of rest and off
time between rounds for people with no interest in the other venue to eat
or sociallize.  This would also allow the list mistresses and other running
the list appropriate time to arrange pairings etc.. and would limit the
wasted time we often have between rounds.

This is just the opinion of the autocrat, it not like I run the thing.

Daniel

"Rayburn, Timothy" <TRayburn at healthaxis.com>@ansteorra.org on 06/14/2000
04:47:31 PM

Please respond to elfsea at ansteorra.org

Sent by:  owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org

To:   "'elfsea at ansteorra.org'" <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
cc:
Subject:  RE: ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney

*Warning Personal Opinion Incoming*

This is a myth, and a really bad one in my feeling.

Mixing Rapier and Heavy lists at the same time takes away from both and
makes it 'just another tournament'.

Making the first several rounds run on 8 list fields will bring up the
speed somewhat, but people want fewer list fields as the rounds go on so
the can watch each fight, this slows things down.

The fact of the matter is that once the first two rounds of a tournament
are over (double elim) you've taken out half the combatants, and each fight
begins to become interesting for a growing number of people. While there
is nothing about a list that stops the quarter finals (four fights) from
being fought on four list fields, it's bad showmanship because everyone
wants to see all the fights.

When you have three big tournaments (Rapier, Armored, Archery) at one
event, then there /will/ be overlap in the schedule. In general you have
the hours of 10-5 to complete all the competitions for the day. 2 hours
(and change) each, divided evenly. Otherwise you overlap competitions, and
that means someone isn't in the lime light.

On the other hand, with two competitions each you have 3.5 hours for each,
divided evenly. That is somewhat more workable.

Now, if one of the lists was moved to Sunday, than that would also
accomplish this, but Rapier and Archery have been relegated to this in
times past and it always hurts the competition.

Timothy of Glastonbury
Opinionated Archer, Rapier Fighter, Herald, Spectator, etc.

-----Original Message-----
From: SiobhanON at AOL.com [SMTP:SiobhanON at AOL.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:09 PM
To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
Subject: Re: ES - Elfsea Defender Chivalric Tourney

In a message dated 6/14/00 1:48:24 PM Central Daylight Time,
dmmerlick at earthlink.net writes:

<< Moving the Rapier Defender
might not be such a bad idea. It would allow most of the daytime
attention to be focused on two championships at Defender, Chivalric and
Archery. At the same time more focus could also be given to the rapier
tourney without competing with the Chivalric Defender.
>>
I disagree. There is as much civalric fighting at Springfaire and moving
Rapier Defender to Springfaire will take away some of the prestige of it
being a "Defender" tournament. If we have a big enough list field, that
many
things are going on at once, we should be able to it all and everyone get
enough focus.
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