ES - Children at events

Tue Feb 20 11:46:13 PST 2001

Thanks to you, too.  As I just wrote to Allessandre, it has been a loooong 
time since I have read Kingdom Law.  Guess I need a brush-up on this stuff.
Gwenllian

>From: "Richard Threlkeld" <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
>Reply-To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
>To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
>Subject: RE: ES - Children at events
>Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 15:10:05 -0600
>
>I believe the non-combatant box is only required when you will be on
>the field when it is active. In melees at Pensic, for instance, they
>have all these on active fields. In most cases in Ansteorra, we do
>not send waterbearers on the field unless it is a hold *and* we
>have permission from the marshals on the field.
>
>The non-combatant box means you have taken a short course in the
>rules and etiquette of the lists and melee fields. You know enough
>to be fairly safe and you know that being on an active field is
>never completely safe (arrows, for instance, do not know that you
>are a non-combatant).
>
>We request Chirurgeons to get the non-combatant training. In fact,
>we recommend (but do not require) Chirurgeons to become field
>marshals in one or more combat activities. They will understand
>more about the fighters and fighting, be even more useful, and
>the fighters and marshals may trust them more.
>
>Caelin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org [mailto:owner-elfsea at ansteorra.org]On
> > Behalf Of Julie Self
> > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 1:06 PM
> > To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> > Subject: RE: ES - Children at events
> >
> >
> > I have just gotten an authorization card that has a Non-Combat block 
>with
> > Scout, Banner Bearer, Chirurgeon, Herald and Water Bearer in
> > parentheses.
> > Does this not mean that they really should be authorized?
> > Gwenllian Hertewelle
> >
> >
> > >From: "Richard Threlkeld" <rjt at softwareinnovation.com>
> > >Reply-To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> > >To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
> > >Subject: RE: ES - Children at events
> > >Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 11:57:00 -0600
> > >
> > >You do not need to be authorized to be a waterbearer. We prefer that 
>you
> > >work with the official Waterbearer for the event. He or she will
> > make sure
> > >you know the rules for the day. When you may enter a list field, what 
>to
> > >do if someone puts the water bottle head in their mouth, ...
> > >
> > >We are currently reviving the Waterbearer's Guild. It will operate 
>under
> > >the Chirurgeon's Guild (waterbearers report to the chirurgeons), but 
>has
> > >its own Kingdom Waterbearer office. There will be a short (about 30
> > >minutes)
> > >class on sanitation, rules, and organization. Those who take the
> > class will
> > >be Journeyman Waterbearers and entitled to wear a blue baldric with the
> > >Waterbearer's badge on it. We expect those people to run the 
>waterbearing
> > >at events.
> > >
> > >A Journeyman Waterbearer is not required at any event and they have
> > >no authority over the Autocrats or whomever the Autocrat chooses to
> > >waterbear. However, they will make themselves available. As an 
>Autocrat,
> > >I would choose someone who wanted to do it and who had instruction in
> > >doing it well and who (probably) had experience in doing it.
> > >
> > >That was probably much more than you wanted, but my two cents worth.
> > >
> > >Caelin
> > >Deputy Kingdom Chirurgeon (and former Kingdom Waterbearer)
> > >
> > > > I thought that in order to be a waterbearer you now had to be
> > > > authorized -
> > > > I know I've overheard people say "are you authorized to be a
> > >waterbearer?"
> > > > Or do I have my wires crossed (again)?
> > > >
> > > > Lavina
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2001, Richard Threlkeld wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > 1.  Would it be possible for those who are interested in having 
>a
> > > > > > page/squire (or whatever appropriate title is) all to gather at 
>an
> > > > > > upcoming event, set aside a time with the MOC and give a talk
> > > > about what
> > > > > > they as "Sir Knight" do as a knight and would except of a page; 
>or
> > > > > > what "Lord/Lady Herald" does and would need help with.  After
> > >everyone
> > > > > > gives their presentations, the kids could break up into
> > > > groups and meet
> > > > > > either as small group or individually with the person they
> > > > wish to work
> > > > > > with.  Things could progress from there...
> > > > >  Great idea. There are two possibilities. Let the children
> > > > choose or let
> > > > > the adult choose. Each has merits and in the end, both must 
>choose.
> > >And
> > > > > it will also require input from the child's parents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2.  Why can't the older children be criers or runners at
> > > > events.  Tabbards
> > > > > > could be made to easily identify these pages.
> > > > > Or waterbearers!
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again - just my .02 cents worth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Lady Lavina
> > > > > > (again - who is always willing to give her advise on subjects)
> > > > > Caelin
> > > > >
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