[Elfsea] Pressing topic: New Park for Practices

housedragonstar housedragonstar at prodigy.net
Tue Nov 13 16:43:12 PST 2001


Couple of  things...

Bedford Boys Ranch only moves it about a smidge west, but way north.

Also, I keep getting the impression that we think that Elfsea ends somewhere
just west of 35 W.  Not to pick on Timothy, but more than one person has
mentioned to me in person that magic phrase...35 W and 360.

Is there a map somewhere that actually outlines the basics of where the
different baronies are and to what general geographic areas they lay claim
to?  Inquiring minds want to know.

medb


----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Rayburn" <timothy at elfsea.net>
To: <elfsea at ansteorra.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Elfsea] Pressing topic: New Park for Practices


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Tessa Nieto <eleanor_cleavely at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
Date:  Tue, 13 Nov 2001 14:12:09 -0800 (PST)

>We're talking about attracting a "demographic," right?
>The Trinity Park area attracts visitors and residents
>on the weekends like you wouldn't believe. There are
>numerous bathroom facilities and it is highly
>wheelchair accessible.

Recruiting is part, but not all, of the reason to move fighter practice.
While it must be considered, we must also consider where the community we
are serving is truly located.  The hard facts are that most, I'd wager of
80%, of those that fight at Elfsea fighter practices are located between 35W
and 360 in the east-west, and within a short drive if 20 and 183/820
north-south (there are many that live just north or south of that
north-south window, but they would head to either 183/820 or 20 to head
anywhere).  The map center of such a population would be at about 820 & 30,
as has been discussed before.

The new fighter practice location should first and foremost not decrease the
number of people attending fighter practice at the current time who are
already part of the organization.  Secondarily to that is should do a great
many things, including help recruiting, but also have better facilities,
good lighting, allow archery, have water available, etc.

A location such as Trinity Park may be centrally located to our zip codes,
but not to the attending populace.  And it is the attending populace who
gets first priority, and the improvements desired as second priority.

I understand that our populace is likely centered mostly on that area
because Randall Mill Park is also nearly exactly in the center of that area,
and that there is likely a cause-and-effect relationship.  Even if that is a
causal relationship, it doesn't mean we don't have to consider the existing
populace first.

>
>It would also be more convenient for people in the
>western parts of the barony to make it to Trinity than
>driving all the way to Sublett or even to Veteran's
>Park (which is less than 1/4 mile from my apartment).
>Everyone raised cane about centrality and now we're
>talking about moving it further east?
>

Actually I believe that the current 'front runner', at least to me, is the
Bedford Boys Ranch.  It moves fighter practice to the west, and deal with
many concerns, including allowing archery.  Vetrans and the park off Sublett
have been thrown out as ideas, but I'd agree with you that they also do not
serve the existing attendees very well.

I would also again like to voice the opinion that while Fort Worth has been
doing a great deal to improve Trinity Park, it has not had an effect on the
neighborhood yet, and I would not feel comfortable being in said
neighborhood after dark.

>Let's keep with the centrality idea and look for a
>park in Fort Worth.


I agree with centrally located, but let's centralize on the Barony's
population, not it's zip codes.


Timothy

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