[Elfsea] Ok, lets talk about Defender and Springfaire

Richard Threlkeld rjt at softwareinnovation.com
Tue Oct 29 09:12:19 PST 2002

I too prefer to choose all our Defenders at one event. I understand
the desire to "showcase" one of the Defender areas, but that
requires 4 to 7 events or implicitly relegates some of the Defenders
to be less than others. If the September event is primarily Chivalric
and the Spring event is primarily Rapier, then Archery, Bardic,
and Live Weapons are less important. I expect to see Equestrian
competitions pick up in the future. We have children Defenders.
And we may well have siege weapons competitions in the future.

Because of its position on the calendar (just prior to Crown
and in fairly nice weather) Defender usually has a bigger
draw from over the entire Kingdom. Moving a Defender competition
from that event to another somewhat reduces the exposure of
the moved event.

In service,
Caelin on Andrede

> -----Original Message-----
> From: elfsea-admin at ansteorra.org [mailto:elfsea-admin at ansteorra.org]On
> Behalf Of Timothy Rayburn
> Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 10:17 AM
> To: elfsea at ansteorra.org
> Subject: RE: [Elfsea] Ok, lets talk about Defender and Springfaire
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Shaw, Donnel" <ShawD at chisd.com>
> >I disagree. We have spent to many years to have the rapier community
> >recognized. We intentually stressed the inclusion of that
> champion. As well
> >as the Archery defender.   Spring Fair was to be our Children's event and
> >our fun event after a year of stress and work on the part of the
> populas. I
> >would argue strongly on the both Champions.
> >
> >Donnel Shaw
> >Pre K
> >Bray
> With respect, I don't believe this has been so for some time now.
>  Putting on an event is never easy, and of late Springfaire has
> been a more involved undertaking than Defender has.  I do not
> doubt that what you say is true from when Defender had major
> culture camps organized within the Barony, and the like.  But
> these days, the 'routine' of Defender almost makes it an easier
> event to put on, and few within the Barony have been organizing
> Culture Camps for Defender.
> I firmly believe in the Rapier community, and the suggestion
> comes as a way to breath new life into that community.  I believe
> that the trend of late at Defender, to hold the Heavy and Light
> list at the same time due to 'time concerns' robs the show, the
> attention, from each of the communities.
> With only a Heavy list and an Archery list at Defender there is
> time to give large amounts of attention to both of these.  The
> Archery list can have the full and undivided attention of the
> B&B.  Meanwhile a interesting or challenging more 'fun' list can
> be run for the Rapier community.
> Meanwhile, at Springfaire we can focus on choosing the Rapier
> Champion, and Bard of Elfsea.  We can host a Pas, or a bear pit
> tourney for the heavy fighters that will focus on enjoyment and
> not competition.  Likewise for Archery, we can have a bag shoot
> or other 'laid back' non-competition type shoot.
> I realize that this would be a change in traditions, but it might
> be a change that could make a positive move in the prestige of
> our tournaments and the enjoyment of the Champion/Defender
> competitions by all who are involved.
> Timothy
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